{"id":25941,"date":"2011-12-12T00:35:38","date_gmt":"2011-12-12T05:35:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/countingpips.com\/fx\/2011\/12\/12\/why-you-shouldn%e2%80%99t-trust-your-gold-to-a-banker\/"},"modified":"2011-12-12T00:35:38","modified_gmt":"2011-12-12T05:35:38","slug":"why-you-shouldnt-trust-your-gold-to-a-banker","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/2011\/12\/12\/why-you-shouldnt-trust-your-gold-to-a-banker\/","title":{"rendered":"Why You Shouldn\u2019t Trust Your Gold to a Banker"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>By MoneyMorning.com.au<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>You wouldn&#8217;t trust your sausages to a dog&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;So why trust your <strong>gold<\/strong> to a banker?<\/p>\n<p><span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Last Friday we wrote this:<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;We wonder how many investors think they&#8217;ve got gold safely stored in the bank without realising the bank has loaned it out to someone else.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Over the weekend, the following story cropped up on <em>Bloomberg News<\/em>:<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;Five gold bars and 15 silver bars underlie eight Comex contracts between the brokerage [MF Global] and its client Jason Fane of Ithaca, New York, the unit of London-based HSBC said in a court filing yesterday.  Both parties have asserted claims to the bars, creating difficulties for HSBC, which is storing them, the bank said.  HSBC asked a judge to decide who the rightful owner is.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>The total value of these bars is USD$850,000.  So we&#8217;re not talking small potatoes.  A few weeks ago, Mr. Fane had no worries about his status as owner of the bars.<\/p>\n<p>Today, while he&#8217;s still confident he&#8217;s the legal owner, the decision is out of his hands.  It&#8217;s up to a judge to decide.<\/p>\n<p>It just goes to show that when you&#8217;re dealing with paper or electronic assets, when push comes to shove, what&#8217;s yours ain&#8217;t necessarily yours.<\/p>\n<p><H3><\/p>\n<div align=\"center\">Look After Your Gold as You Would Your Sausages<\/div>\n<p><\/H3><br \/>\nThat&#8217;s why we suggest you buy the metal, take delivery of it, and then store it in a secure facility.  Preferably where you know some rascally banker won&#8217;t lend it to someone else&#8230; or even claim your gold and silver <em>isn&#8217;t<\/em> your gold and silver.<\/p>\n<p>Anyways, this is a subject our old pal, <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.portphillippublishing.com.au\/research\/vp\/OSI\/m12osigru-tp.php?code=W9AOMC01\" target=\"_blank\">Diggers &#038; Drillers<\/a><\/em> editor, Dr. Alex Cowie has banged on about for years.  So we asked for his take on the story.  Here&#8217;s what he told us:<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;You have to be mad storing gold at a bank.  It&#8217;s like getting a dog to guard your sausages!<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I feel for investors like Mr. Fane who understand the value of gold, but then stuff up the trade.  The idea at the core of gold is that it&#8217;s no one else&#8217;s liability &#8211; so if you&#8217;re buying the stuff, it&#8217;s a good idea not to give it to a kleptomaniac to look after.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;But hopefully this gets people thinking.  Investors who currently hold their gold electronically, through a foreign bank that doesn&#8217;t mind lending it out for you, or perhaps through a broker (which may turn out to be insolvent), should now think about the wisdom of this strategy.  If enough investors see this for what it is, we should see a surge in demand for physical gold.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>What does <a href=\"http:\/\/www.portphillippublishing.com.au\/research\/vp\/OSI\/m12osigru-tp.php?code=W9AOMC01\" target=\"_blank\">the Doc<\/a> mean by his last point?  That this could <em>&#8220;see a surge in demand for physical gold&#8221;<\/em>?<\/p>\n<p>Simply this&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><H3><\/p>\n<div align=\"center\">Rushing into Gold<\/div>\n<p><\/H3><br \/>\nIf investors start losing faith that there is actually any gold backing their paper or electronic gold, they&#8217;ll start trying to redeem their paper for gold.  Or more likely, just sell the paper asset and buy the real stuff somewhere else.<\/p>\n<p>In short, you&#8217;d get a run on paper gold assets.  Like how you get a bank run when savers don&#8217;t believe the bank holds enough cash.<\/p>\n<p>At the moment, investors still have faith.  For instance, the Australian Securities Exchange-listed, <strong>GOLD ETF [ASX: GOLD]<\/strong> trades roughly at par with the entitlement to gold (currently, for each share in GOLD, an investor is entitled to 0.0969718 ounces of gold).<\/p>\n<p>But if investors lose faith in paper gold, you&#8217;ll start to see physical gold trading at a premium to the paper stuff.  Investors will want to hold the physical gold.<\/p>\n<p>Add in the continued problems in Europe and North America and it means good news for the gold price&#8230; and good news for gold explorers and producers.  Why?<\/p>\n<p>Dr. Cowie explains in his article on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20111212\/who-else-wants-to-invest-in-cheap-resources-stocks.html#more-6869\">resources stocks<\/a>&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cheers.<br \/>\nKris<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Related Articles<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.portphillippublishing.com.au\/research\/vp\/OSI\/m12osigru-tp.php?code=W9AOMC01\" target=\"_blank\">Special Report: Six Extraordinary Resource Investment Opportunities for 2012<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20111210\/how-to-buy-gold-and-silver.html\" target=\"_blank\">How to Buy Gold and Silver<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20111208\/the-only-gold-and-silver-stocks-to-buy.html\" target=\"_blank\">The Only Gold and Silver Stocks to Buy<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20111203\/the-secret-aussie-bank-run-is-a-sign-to-buy-gold.html\" target=\"_blank\">The Secret Aussie &#8216;Bank Run&#8217; is a Sign to Buy Gold<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20111202\/why-gold-should-become-your-%E2%80%98stay-rich%E2%80%99-asset.html\" target=\"_blank\">Why Gold Should Become Your &#8216;Stay Rich&#8217; Asset<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>From the Archives&#8230;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20111209\/how-to-turn-paper-money-into-silver-and-gold.html\" target=\"_blank\">How to Turn Paper Money into Silver and Gold<\/a><br \/>\n2011-12-09 &#8211; Kris Sayce<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20111208\/will-silver-break-through-50-an-ounce-in-2012.html\" target=\"_blank\">Will Silver Break Through $50 an Ounce in 2012<\/a><br \/>\n2011-12-08 &#8211; Dr. Alex Cowie<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20111207\/investing-in-the-market-for-survival-and-prosperity.html\" target=\"_blank\">Investing in the Market for Survival and Prosperity<\/a><br \/>\n2011-12-07 &#8211; Aaron Tyrrell<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20111206\/china-the-us-and-the-scramble-for-commodities.html\" target=\"_blank\">China, the U.S. and the Scramble for Commodities<\/a><br \/>\n2011-12-06 &#8211; Dr. Alex Cowie<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20111205\/santa-claus-a-market-rally-not-worth-the-risk.html\" target=\"_blank\">Santa Claus: A Market Rally Not Worth the Risk<\/a><br \/>\n2011-12-05 &#8211; Kris Sayce<\/p>\n<p>For editorial enquiries and feedback, email <a href=\"mailto:moneymorning@moneymorning.com.au\" target=\"_blank\">moneymorning@moneymorning.com.au<\/a><\/p>\n<div>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=NzqUfrbaiVI:QLFnteyI_Qs:yIl2AUoC8zA\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?d=yIl2AUoC8zA\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=NzqUfrbaiVI:QLFnteyI_Qs:V_sGLiPBpWU\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?i=NzqUfrbaiVI:QLFnteyI_Qs:V_sGLiPBpWU\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=NzqUfrbaiVI:QLFnteyI_Qs:gIN9vFwOqvQ\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?i=NzqUfrbaiVI:QLFnteyI_Qs:gIN9vFwOqvQ\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/MoneyMorningAustralia\/~4\/NzqUfrbaiVI\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\" \/><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/feedproxy.google.com\/~r\/MoneyMorningAustralia\/~3\/NzqUfrbaiVI\/why-you-shouldn%E2%80%99t-trust-your-gold-to-a-banker.html\" target=\"_blank\">Why You Shouldn\u2019t Trust Your Gold to a Banker <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By MoneyMorning.com.au You wouldn&#8217;t trust your sausages to a dog&#8230; &#8230;So why trust your gold to a banker? Last Friday we wrote this: &#8220;We wonder how many investors think they&#8217;ve got gold safely stored in the bank without realising the bank has loaned it out to someone else.&#8221; Over the weekend, the following story cropped &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/2011\/12\/12\/why-you-shouldnt-trust-your-gold-to-a-banker\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Why You Shouldn\u2019t Trust Your Gold to a Banker&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-25941","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25941","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=25941"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25941\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=25941"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=25941"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=25941"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}