{"id":24727,"date":"2011-10-26T00:24:34","date_gmt":"2011-10-26T04:24:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/countingpips.com\/fx\/2011\/10\/26\/dr-doom%e2%80%99s-warning-for-aussie-investors\/"},"modified":"2011-10-26T00:24:34","modified_gmt":"2011-10-26T04:24:34","slug":"dr-dooms-warning-for-aussie-investors","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/2011\/10\/26\/dr-dooms-warning-for-aussie-investors\/","title":{"rendered":"Dr. Doom\u2019s Warning for Aussie Investors"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>By MoneyMorning.com.au<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>You may have noticed we have a habit of banging on about something until we&#8217;ve bled it dry.  We know we should try and mix things up&#8230; give you more variety&#8230; but, well, that&#8217;s just the way we are.<\/p>\n<p>When we get our teeth into a subject, it&#8217;s hard to let go.<\/p>\n<p>Yesterday we noticed this story from <em>Bloomberg News<\/em>:<span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;China, the world&#8217;s second-biggest economy, is heading towards a soft landing, speakers at the Bloomberg Link China Conference in Hong Kong said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;A hard landing is a &#8216;distant scenario,&#8217; Liu Li-Gang, head of Greater China economics at Australia and New Zealand Banking Group Ltd., said at the forum today.  China&#8217;s consumption is &#8216;very strong&#8217; as wages jump, backing economic expansion, said John Tang, China strategist at UBS AG.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Funny that.  Speakers at a &#8220;China Conference&#8221; claiming the Chinese economy won&#8217;t crash.<\/p>\n<p>But that&#8217;s fine.  Just as we don&#8217;t expect too many speakers at the Sydney Gold Symposium to say we should sell gold because it isn&#8217;t worth anything.<\/p>\n<p><em>[Ed note: If you haven&#8217;t registered for the Sydney Gold Symposium on 14\/15 November, you can register by <a href=\"http:\/\/gold.symposium.net.au\/\" target=\"_blank\">clicking here&#8230;<\/a>]<\/em><\/p>\n<p>While our view is gold will go higher, we&#8217;ll still be sceptical if someone claims gold will reach $40,000 by the end of next year&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><strong><\/p>\n<div align=\"center\">It&#8217;s Only True Until It&#8217;s Not True<\/div>\n<p><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>In the same way we were sceptical when Royal Bank of Scotland and Goldman Sachs analysts told the <em>Australian Financial Review<\/em> in January that the Aussie S&#038;P\/ASX 200 index would be higher than 5,600 points by the end of the year.<\/p>\n<p>Today the index is around 4,200 points.  It needs to gain 33.3% between now and 31 December to reach that target.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s why it always pays to listen, but do some of your own homework on the subject as well.<\/p>\n<p>After all, saying China will keep growing because it&#8217;s still growing is like saying a balloon won&#8217;t pop because it&#8217;s still expanding!  Both statements are only true until they&#8217;re no longer true.<\/p>\n<p>But now we&#8217;ve got a new ally.  Dr. Nouriel Roubini has joined the China &#8220;hard landing&#8221; crowd.  Dr. Roubini is one of the few economists who correctly predicted the global financial meltdown in 2008.<\/p>\n<p>And now he says Australia will be in trouble if (or in our opinion, <u>when<\/u>) the Chinese economy crashes.  According to the <em>Australian<\/em>, Dr. Roubini said:<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;If China has a hard landing, for a period of time that&#8217;s going to hurt growth and reduce commodity prices until China recovers and until the rest of the world recovers.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Of course, just because Dr. Roubini says it, it doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s true.  But it adds weight to the argument that China can&#8217;t avoid a big economic downturn&#8230; and if that happens, Australia will suffer.<\/p>\n<p>But what of the idea that China has a whole bunch of savings to draw from?<\/p>\n<p><strong><\/p>\n<div align=\"center\">Gold Under the Bed<\/div>\n<p><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Money Morning<\/em> reader, Peter sent us a note a couple of days ago.  He wrote:<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;Chinese save a significant portion of their salary, and now they are allowed to buy gold and silver, a considerable amount of wealth is literally going under the bed and not into bank accounts.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s true the Chinese are buying gold.  Our old pal, <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.portphillippublishing.com.au\/research\/OSI\/osim10onlyway.php?code=W9AOMA01\" target=\"_blank\">Diggers &#038; Drillers<\/a><\/em> editor, Dr. Alex Cowie has written to his subscribers about it.  But it&#8217;s still a tiny proportion of saving.<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s put it in perspective.  China&#8217;s official gold reserves are 1,054 tonnes.  At today&#8217;s gold price it&#8217;s valued at USD$57.6 billion.  By contrast, China holds USD$1.1 trillion of U.S. Treasury bonds&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>In other words, China&#8217;s official holding of U.S. paper assets is more than 20 times larger than its gold assets.<\/p>\n<p>Also, let&#8217;s not forget that for every dollar saved in a Chinese bank account, thanks to fractional reserve banking, there are many more dollars issued in loans on the other side of the ledger.<\/p>\n<p>And if Satyajit Das, author of <em>Extreme Money: Masters of the Universe and the Cult of Risk<\/em> is right, China&#8217;s savings may not be as secure as most think.  Asked by a Bloomberg News reporter, <em>&#8220;How can a land as large as China run such a surplus?&#8221;<\/em>  Das replied:<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;It&#8217;s unsustainable.  That&#8217;s the lesson we should have learned from 2007.  We instead shovelled everything under the carpet, and it&#8217;s going to come back to haunt us.  China&#8217;s going to have to write off its $3 trillion.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;&#8230;Why wouldn&#8217;t they [the Chinese] suddenly turn around and say, well, we lent you $3 trillion and you&#8217;re not going to pay us back.  So we&#8217;ve written it off and we won&#8217;t buy any more U.S. Treasuries until the U.S. reforms its fiscal position.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Will anything that extreme happen?  It seems unlikely.  But then again, according to the U.S. Treasury, China&#8217;s holding of U.S. Treasuries was the same in August 2011 as it was one year before&#8230; USD$1.137 trillion.<\/p>\n<p><strong><\/p>\n<div align=\"center\">China&#8217;s Savings Backed by Speculative Debt<\/div>\n<p><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Of course, China hasn&#8217;t had to buy Treasuries this past 12 months&#8230; because the U.S. Federal Reserve has been in the market as the biggest buyer of government bonds.<\/p>\n<p>So let&#8217;s not get too excited about China&#8217;s savings.  Most savings in the modern banking system aren&#8217;t backed by anything other than someone else&#8217;s debt.<\/p>\n<p>If the savings really were <em>&#8220;under the bed&#8221;<\/em> in gold bars then we&#8217;d happily accept China&#8217;s savings could cushion it from an economic downturn.<\/p>\n<p>But it&#8217;s not.  China is no stranger to debt.  Its banks have used debt to fuel land, construction and commodities speculations.  None of those are safe bets.<\/p>\n<p>Put simply, while Chinese savers may think their savings are held safely in a bank, in reality they&#8217;re putting their cash into what are little more than highly leveraged and speculative hedge funds.<\/p>\n<p>And as you&#8217;ve learnt before &#8211; as recently as 2008 &#8211; there&#8217;s no way such risky investments will result in a happy ending.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cheers.<br \/>\nKris.<\/strong><\/p>\n<div>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=et3PteVnvdA:xR27rWMH65E:yIl2AUoC8zA\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?d=yIl2AUoC8zA\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=et3PteVnvdA:xR27rWMH65E:V_sGLiPBpWU\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?i=et3PteVnvdA:xR27rWMH65E:V_sGLiPBpWU\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=et3PteVnvdA:xR27rWMH65E:gIN9vFwOqvQ\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?i=et3PteVnvdA:xR27rWMH65E:gIN9vFwOqvQ\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/MoneyMorningAustralia\/~4\/et3PteVnvdA\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\" \/><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/feedproxy.google.com\/~r\/MoneyMorningAustralia\/~3\/et3PteVnvdA\/dr-dooms-warning-for-aussie-investors.html\" target=\"_blank\">Dr. Doom\u2019s Warning for Aussie Investors <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By MoneyMorning.com.au You may have noticed we have a habit of banging on about something until we&#8217;ve bled it dry. We know we should try and mix things up&#8230; give you more variety&#8230; but, well, that&#8217;s just the way we are. When we get our teeth into a subject, it&#8217;s hard to let go. Yesterday &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/2011\/10\/26\/dr-dooms-warning-for-aussie-investors\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Dr. Doom\u2019s Warning for Aussie Investors&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-24727","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/24727","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=24727"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/24727\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=24727"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=24727"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=24727"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}