{"id":24052,"date":"2011-09-25T17:36:49","date_gmt":"2011-09-25T21:36:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/countingpips.com\/fx\/?p=24052"},"modified":"2011-09-25T17:36:49","modified_gmt":"2011-09-25T21:36:49","slug":"bull-bear-cases-for-gold-silver-and-stocks","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/2011\/09\/25\/bull-bear-cases-for-gold-silver-and-stocks\/","title":{"rendered":"Bull &#038; Bear Cases for Gold, Silver and Stocks"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">After gold and silver got hit hard last week, some of you probably wonder if that was the end of the 10 year+ bull market for precious metals.<br \/>\nIn this article, we will describe both the Bull &amp; Bear Cases for Gold, Silver and Stocks and we will also make some interesting comparisons.<br \/>\nLet\u2019s start off with the Bull case for gold.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">Gold hit the red resistance line, which also halted gold\u2019s rise in 2006 and 2008. I drew Fibonacci Retracement levels from the Bottom in 2001 to the \u201cInflation Adjusted Alltime High\u201d around $2,300. We can see that the Fibonacci Levels have done their job in the past. Will we hit the 61.80% level again (and this hit the orange line, which is right between the red resistance line and the green support line)? That level comes in at $1,516 and is the July 2011 breakout level.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\"><a style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; text-decoration: none; color: #e97f02; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\" href=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/gold-LT.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-6720 size-medium alignnone\" style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #ffffff; clear: none; line-height: 0; text-indent: 0px; text-decoration: none; text-align: left; letter-spacing: 0px; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; padding: 2px; margin: 0px; border: 1px initial initial;\" title=\"gold LT\" src=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/gold-LT-300x152.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"152\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<em>Chart courtesy stockcharts.com<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">Notice that the comparison with 1979 also gives us support at or near the low $1,500\u2032s.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\"><a style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; text-decoration: none; color: #e97f02; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\" href=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/Gold-19793.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-6715 size-medium alignnone\" style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #ffffff; clear: none; line-height: 0; text-indent: 0px; text-decoration: none; text-align: left; letter-spacing: 0px; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; padding: 2px; margin: 0px; border: 1px initial initial;\" title=\"Gold 1979\" src=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/Gold-19793-227x300.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"227\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">When we reached oversold levels on the RSI combined with a BPGDM Index below 50, it often marked a bottom for gold:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\"><a style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; text-decoration: none; color: #e97f02; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\" href=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/BPGDM3.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-6736 size-medium alignnone\" style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #ffffff; clear: none; line-height: 0; text-indent: 0px; text-decoration: none; text-align: left; letter-spacing: 0px; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; padding: 2px; margin: 0px; border: 1px initial initial;\" title=\"$BPGDM\" src=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/BPGDM3-300x271.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"271\" \/><br \/>\n<\/a><em>Chart courtesy stockcharts.com<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">When we look at the entire bull market of Gold since 2001, we can see that the 10 Months Exponential Moving Average was a good entry level. Right now, it is around $1,550. Price sometimes dipped slightly below this level, so once again, we might see the low $1,500\u2032s.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\"><a style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; text-decoration: none; color: #e97f02; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\" href=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/Gold-LT-10EMA.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-6718 size-medium alignnone\" style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #ffffff; clear: none; line-height: 0; text-indent: 0px; text-decoration: none; text-align: left; letter-spacing: 0px; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; padding: 2px; margin: 0px; border: 1px initial initial;\" title=\"Gold LT 10EMA\" src=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/Gold-LT-10EMA-300x132.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"132\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<em>Chart courtesy stockcharts.com<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">When we look at the Weekly chart of Gold, we can see that the 30EMA has often supported the Gold Price.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\"><a style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; text-decoration: none; color: #e97f02; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\" href=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/gold-LT-30EMA.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-6728 size-medium alignnone\" style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #ffffff; clear: none; line-height: 0; text-indent: 0px; text-decoration: none; text-align: left; letter-spacing: 0px; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; padding: 2px; margin: 0px; border: 1px initial initial;\" title=\"gold LT 30EMA\" src=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/gold-LT-30EMA-300x179.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"179\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<em>Chart courtesy stockcharts.com<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">Actually, the 150 Days EMA, which is a proxy for the 30 Weeks EMA, also provided support during the 1980 price explosion:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\"><a style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; text-decoration: none; color: #e97f02; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\" href=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/Gold-1980-EMA.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-6716 size-medium alignnone\" style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #ffffff; clear: none; line-height: 0; text-indent: 0px; text-decoration: none; text-align: left; letter-spacing: 0px; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; padding: 2px; margin: 0px; border: 1px initial initial;\" title=\"Gold 1980 EMA\" src=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/Gold-1980-EMA-300x140.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"140\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">When we look at the following chart, we can see that the USD broke above the pink resistance line last week. Price is now also above the 200EMA, which acted as support and resistance in the past. This is a Bullish Development, and should be bad for precious metals and Equity Markets.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">However, when we look at the gold price (2nd part of the chart), we can see that the 150EMA has not been broken to the downside yet.<br \/>\nFor GDX (Market Vectors Gold Miners ETF) the 400EMA seems to be the level of importance. It has been tagged on Friday.<br \/>\nSilver looks much worse than Gold and Gold miners right now. That\u2019s the reason why I haven\u2019t touched silver at all since late April, when I expected Silver to crash. For the first time since 2008, the price has broken decisively below the 150EMA, which seems to be the level of importance (for both Gold and Silver).<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">Last but not Least, the SP500 also dropped below its 400EMA.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">So unless we are about to see 2008 all over again, I think Gold and GDX are in the best position.<br \/>\nSilver is a broken parabola, and it takes time, a lot of time to reach new highs (if ever), as I have written several times.<br \/>\nThe stock markets need to recover their 400EMA before they are in a favorable position.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\"><a style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; text-decoration: none; color: #e97f02; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\" href=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/USD_GOLD_GDX_SILVER_SPX.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-6726 size-medium alignnone\" style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #ffffff; clear: none; line-height: 0; text-indent: 0px; text-decoration: none; text-align: left; letter-spacing: 0px; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; padding: 2px; margin: 0px; border: 1px initial initial;\" title=\"USD_GOLD_GDX_SILVER_SPX\" src=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/USD_GOLD_GDX_SILVER_SPX-177x300.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"177\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<em>Chart courtesy stockcharts.com<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\"><a style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; text-decoration: none; color: #e97f02; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\" href=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/Gold-35-EMA.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-6714 size-medium alignnone\" style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #ffffff; clear: none; line-height: 0; text-indent: 0px; text-decoration: none; text-align: left; letter-spacing: 0px; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; padding: 2px; margin: 0px; border: 1px initial initial;\" title=\"Gold 35 EMA\" src=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/Gold-35-EMA-300x227.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"227\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<em>Chart courtesy stockcharts.com<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">I do have something positive to say about silver: Price is now 21.41% below its 50EMA. Whenever price fell more than 10% below its 50EMA during this bull market, silver was always at or near a bottom, EXCEPT for 2008. If we are about to see 2008 all over again, or if the commodity bubble burst last week, silver could drop another 50% from current levels, if not more\u2026<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\"><a style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; text-decoration: none; color: #e97f02; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\" href=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/Silver-50EMA.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-6723 size-medium alignnone\" style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #ffffff; clear: none; line-height: 0; text-indent: 0px; text-decoration: none; text-align: left; letter-spacing: 0px; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; padding: 2px; margin: 0px; border: 1px initial initial;\" title=\"Silver 50EMA\" src=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/Silver-50EMA-300x180.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"180\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<em>Chart courtesy stockcharts.com<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">Here\u2019s what could happen if we are about to see 2008 all over again (this is an updated version of\u00a0<a style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; text-decoration: none; color: #e97f02; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\" href=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/free-articles\/silver-today-vs-2008-does-it-look-familiar\" target=\"_blank\">a chart I published on July 20th<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\"><a style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; text-decoration: none; color: #e97f02; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\" href=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/Silver-vs-20081.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-6724 size-medium alignnone\" style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #ffffff; clear: none; line-height: 0; text-indent: 0px; text-decoration: none; text-align: left; letter-spacing: 0px; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; padding: 2px; margin: 0px; border: 1px initial initial;\" title=\"Silver vs 2008\" src=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/Silver-vs-20081-241x300.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"241\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<em>Chart courtesy Prorealtime.com<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">Here\u2019s another positive picture for silver,\u00a0<a style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; text-decoration: none; color: #e97f02; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\" href=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/free-articles\/5131\" target=\"_blank\">which I posted a while ago<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\"><a style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; text-decoration: none; color: #e97f02; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\" href=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/Silver-inflation2.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-6727 size-medium alignnone\" style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #ffffff; clear: none; line-height: 0; text-indent: 0px; text-decoration: none; text-align: left; letter-spacing: 0px; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; padding: 2px; margin: 0px; border: 1px initial initial;\" title=\"Silver-inflation2\" src=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/Silver-inflation2-300x289.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"289\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">Silver Wheaton looks very bad at this point, as it is forming a Head &amp; Shoulders Pattern:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\"><a style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; text-decoration: none; color: #e97f02; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\" href=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/SLW-SHS.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-6725 size-medium alignnone\" style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #ffffff; clear: none; line-height: 0; text-indent: 0px; text-decoration: none; text-align: left; letter-spacing: 0px; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; padding: 2px; margin: 0px; border: 1px initial initial;\" title=\"SLW SHS\" src=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/SLW-SHS-300x140.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"140\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<em>Chart courtesy Prorealtime.com<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">As you probably know by now, I am fascinated by historical comparisons. Here\u2019s my latest one: The gold price compared to the Shanghai Bubble:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\"><a style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; text-decoration: none; color: #e97f02; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\" href=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/Gold-Shanghai.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-6722 size-medium alignnone\" style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #ffffff; clear: none; line-height: 0; text-indent: 0px; text-decoration: none; text-align: left; letter-spacing: 0px; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; padding: 2px; margin: 0px; border: 1px initial initial;\" title=\"Gold-Shanghai\" src=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/Gold-Shanghai-300x127.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"127\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<em>Chart courtesy stockcharts.com<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">I calculated the Gold-to-10Year Yields, which got me the following chart:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\"><a style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; text-decoration: none; color: #e97f02; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\" href=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/Gold-vs-10Yr-Yields.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-6721 size-medium alignnone\" style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #ffffff; clear: none; line-height: 0; text-indent: 0px; text-decoration: none; text-align: left; letter-spacing: 0px; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; padding: 2px; margin: 0px; border: 1px initial initial;\" title=\"Gold vs 10Yr Yields\" src=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/Gold-vs-10Yr-Yields-300x160.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"160\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">The ratio hit a long term resistance line a couple of days ago, just like it was in the early 80\u2032s.<br \/>\nIt shows that gold has never been more expensive relative to bond yields.<br \/>\nOn the other hand, low yields mean expensive bonds.<br \/>\nIn my opinion, it shows that both gold and bonds have never been more expensive TOGETHER ever before.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">I then decided to plot the Gold:10Years ratio together with the SP500:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\"><a style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; text-decoration: none; color: #e97f02; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\" href=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/Gold-Yields-SP500.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-6729 size-medium alignnone\" style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #ffffff; clear: none; line-height: 0; text-indent: 0px; text-decoration: none; text-align: left; letter-spacing: 0px; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; padding: 2px; margin: 0px; border: 1px initial initial;\" title=\"Gold Yields SP500\" src=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/Gold-Yields-SP500-300x278.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"278\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">Isn\u2019t it interesting to see that bull markets in the Gold:10YR Yields ratio are in line with Bear markets in the SP500, and that Bear Markets in the Ratio are accompanied by Bull markets in Equity markets?<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">To end this article, I compared the Dow Jones index now with the Dow Jones in the \u201970s:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\"><a style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; text-decoration: none; color: #e97f02; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\" href=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/DJI-Now-vs-60s_2.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-6730 size-medium alignnone\" style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #ffffff; clear: none; line-height: 0; text-indent: 0px; text-decoration: none; text-align: left; letter-spacing: 0px; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; padding: 2px; margin: 0px; border: 1px initial initial;\" title=\"DJI - Now vs 60s_\" src=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/DJI-Now-vs-60s_2-300x220.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"220\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<em>Chart courtesy Prorealtime.com<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">The Total Return index shows a similar picture:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\"><a style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; text-decoration: none; color: #e97f02; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\" href=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/DJI-Total-Return2.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-6731 size-medium alignnone\" style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #ffffff; clear: none; line-height: 0; text-indent: 0px; text-decoration: none; text-align: left; letter-spacing: 0px; list-style-type: none; list-style-position: initial; list-style-image: initial; padding: 2px; margin: 0px; border: 1px initial initial;\" title=\"DJI - Total Return\" src=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/DJI-Total-Return2-265x300.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"265\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 10px; padding-left: 0px; outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\">For more analyses and Trading Updates, visit\u00a0<a style=\"outline-width: 0px; outline-style: initial; outline-color: initial; font-size: 14px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: transparent; text-decoration: none; color: #e97f02; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; padding: 0px; margin: 0px; border: 0px initial initial;\" href=\"http:\/\/profitimes.com\/free-articles\/www.profitimes.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.profitimes.com<\/a>\u00a0!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>After gold and silver got hit hard last week, some of you probably wonder if that was the end of the 10 year+ bull market for precious metals. In this article, we will describe both the Bull &amp; Bear Cases for Gold, Silver and Stocks and we will also make some interesting comparisons. Let\u2019s start &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/2011\/09\/25\/bull-bear-cases-for-gold-silver-and-stocks\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Bull &#038; Bear Cases for Gold, Silver and Stocks&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-24052","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/24052","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=24052"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/24052\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=24052"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=24052"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=24052"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}