{"id":21981,"date":"2011-06-28T13:15:42","date_gmt":"2011-06-28T17:15:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/countingpips.com\/fx\/?p=21981"},"modified":"2011-06-28T13:15:42","modified_gmt":"2011-06-28T17:15:42","slug":"can-the-fed-and-economists-forecast-the-future-see-this-startling-chart","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/2011\/06\/28\/can-the-fed-and-economists-forecast-the-future-see-this-startling-chart\/","title":{"rendered":"Can the Fed and Economists Forecast the Future? See This Startling Chart."},"content":{"rendered":"<h3><span style=\"font-size: small;\">Elliott Wave Financial Forecast Editors Kendall and Hochberg on economists, the Fed and forecasting <\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-size: small;\">By Elliott Wave International<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>Business Talk Radio host Gabriel Wisdom recently spoke with                 Pete Kendall, Co-Editor of EWI&#8217;s <em>Elliott Wave Financial Forecast<\/em>.                 Their discussion included a crucial but rarely asked question                 about economists and the Federal Reserve. Here&#8217;s the relevant                 excerpt:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Gabriel Wisdom: <\/strong><em>&#8220;Ben Bernanke, the                   chairman of the Federal Reserve, says the economy is slowing                   but there&#8217;s faster growth ahead. Is he wrong?&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Pete Kendall: <\/strong><em>&#8220;Economists are extrapolationists.                   They tend to look at what&#8217;s happening in the economy and extrapolate                   that forward. So here we have a situation where not just Bernanke                   but economists in general are looking at&#8230; what they call                   the &#8216;soft patch&#8217; and somehow contorting that into growth later                   in the year. <\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Pete&#8217;s startling reply flatly contradicts conventional                 wisdom. Most people believe that the Fed really is able to anticipate                 the economic future. After all, they&#8217;re the most  &#8220;qualified.&#8221; But                   what do the <strong>facts<\/strong> say?<\/p>\n<p>Pete&#8217;s <em>Elliott Wave Financial Forecast <\/em>Co-Editor                 Steve Hochberg recently included this eye-opening chart (from                 Societe Generale Equity Research) in his new subscriber-exclusive                 video, &#8220;<strong>Buy and Hold, or Sell and Fold: Where Are                 The Markets Headed in 2011?<\/strong>&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.elliottwave.com\/images\/marketwatch\/1106-analysts-lag-reality.gif\" alt=\"Analysts Lag Reality. From 'Buy and Hold, or Sell and Fold: Where Are the Markets Headed in 2011?'\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The <strong>red line<\/strong> in the chart is the S&amp;P earnings,                 and the <strong>black line <\/strong>shows economists&#8217; forecasts                 relative to those earnings. Here&#8217;s what James Montier, head of                 equity research for Societe Generale, said about it:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;The chart makes it transparently obvious that <strong>analysts                   lag reality<\/strong>. They only change their minds when there                   is irrefutable proof they were wrong, and then only change                   their minds very slowly.&#8221;<\/em> (emphasis added)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That comment is spot-on. In 2002-2003, as you can see, earnings <em>turned<\/em> <em>up <\/em>despite                 economists&#8217; forecasts for earning <em>declines<\/em>. It took                 them a while to &#8220;turn the ship around&#8221; and play catch-up                 with the trend.<\/p>\n<p>Yet in 2007-2008, earnings <em>turned down<\/em> &#8212; despite the                 forecast by economists for continued <em>increases<\/em>. The                 devastating truth is that earnings did more than fall in the                 first quarter of 2008: they had their <strong>first negative                 quarter in the <em>history<\/em> of the S&amp;P. <\/strong>As Steve                 said in his subscriber video, &#8220;Economists were wrong to                 a record degree&#8221; &#8212; and investors felt the pain.<\/p>\n<p>So what&#8217;s the point? Economists <em>do<\/em> extrapolate the                 trend. That approach works fine, <strong><em>until it doesn&#8217;t<\/em><\/strong>\u00ad  &#8212;                 and you&#8217;re on the hook.<\/p>\n<p>Elliott wave analysis never extrapolates trends &#8212; it <em>anticipates<\/em> them.                 The Wave Principle recognizes that markets must rise <strong>and <\/strong>fall                 &#8212; and that they unfold according to changes in investor psychology,                 in a way that is patterned and recognizable.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>Most people believe that the Fed really is able to anticipate                 the economic future. Now <em>you<\/em> know the facts. Uncover                 other important myths and misconceptions about the economy and                 the markets by reading Market Myths Exposed.<\/p>\n<p>EWI&#8217;s free Market Myths Exposed 33-page eBook takes the 10 most                 dangerous investment myths head on and exposes the truth about                 each in a way every investor can understand. <strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.elliottwave.com\/r.asp?acn=9cp&amp;rcn=aa191&amp;dy=aa062711&amp;url=http:\/\/www.elliottwave.com\/club\/market-myths-exposed\/default.aspx?code=38290%26articleid=2298\">Download                 your free copy now<\/a>.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<div>\n<p><em>This                     article was syndicated by Elliott Wave International and                     was originally published under the headline <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.elliottwave.com\/r.asp?acn=9cp&amp;rcn=aa191&amp;dy=aa062711&amp;url=http:\/\/www.elliottwave.com\/freeupdates\/archives\/2011\/06\/24\/Can-the-Fed-and-Economists-Forecast-the-Future-See-This-Startling-Chart..aspx%26articleid=2298\"><strong>Can the Fed and Economists Forecast the Future? See This Startling Chart.<\/strong><\/a><\/span>.                     EWI is the world&#8217;s largest market forecasting firm. Its staff                     of full-time analysts led by Chartered Market Technician                     Robert Prechter provides 24-hour-a-day market analysis to                 institutional and private investors around the world.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Pete&#8217;s Elliott Wave Financial Forecast Co-Editor Steve Hochberg recently included this eye-opening chart (from Societe Generale Equity Research) in his new subscriber-exclusive video, &#8220;Buy and Hold, or Sell and Fold: Where Are The Markets Headed in 2011?&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-21981","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/21981","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=21981"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/21981\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=21981"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=21981"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/fx\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=21981"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}