{"id":98035,"date":"2016-11-11T16:56:36","date_gmt":"2016-11-11T21:56:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/countingpips.com\/?p=98035"},"modified":"2016-11-11T16:56:36","modified_gmt":"2016-11-11T21:56:36","slug":"did-u-s-treasury-bonds-just-get-stumped-by-trump","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/2016\/11\/did-u-s-treasury-bonds-just-get-stumped-by-trump\/","title":{"rendered":"Did U.S. Treasury Bonds Just Get Stumped by Trump?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"inves-332530639\" class=\"inves-below-title-posts inves-entity-placement\"><div id =\"posts_date_custom\"><div align=\"left\">November 11, 2016<\/div><hr style=\"border: none; border-bottom: 3px solid black;\">\r\n<\/div><\/div><h3 style=\"margin-top: 0px;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">The answer to where T-Bonds are headed is not in the news headlines about Trump. It&#8217;s in the Elliott wave pattern <\/span><\/h3>\n<h3 style=\"margin-top: 0px;\"><span style=\"font-size: small;\">By Elliott Wave International<\/span><\/h3>\n<p>On November 9, the United States woke to the biggest political shock since Harry Truman defeated &#8220;shoe-in&#8221; Thomas E. Dewey in the 1948 U.S. presidential election.<\/p>\n<p>For U.S. bond investors, the 2016 election has been head-spinning too.<\/p>\n<p>In the weeks leading up to the November 8 vote, the ground beneath U.S. Treasuries seemed as stable as log-rolling competition. Have things calmed down now that Donald Trump has been named the next leader of the free world?<\/p>\n<p>Not at all. If anything, things have gotten worse. As these November 9 news items make plain, bonds continue to be stumped by Trump:<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 0.5in;\"><strong>Trump victory is bearish for bonds<\/strong>; i.e. yields rise and prices fall &#8212; &#8220;Long-dated Securities Drop as Trump Seen as Spendthrift President.&#8221; (Bloomberg)<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 0.5in;\"><strong>Trump victory is bullish for bonds<\/strong>; i.e. yields fall and prices rise: &#8220;Investors dashed into the perceived shelter of U.S. Treasury bonds, crushing yields, on speculation that Donald Trump will win.&#8221; (Financial Times)<\/p><div id=\"inves-2153223182\" class=\"inves-in-content inves-entity-placement\"><hr style=\"border: 1px solid #ddd;\">\r\n<div id=\"inpost_ads_header\">\r\n<p style=\"font-size:10px; float:left; color:#666;\">Free Reports:<\/p><\/div>\r\n<div id=\"inpost_ads\"> \r\n<p style=\"font-size:15px; float:left;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/1ApBOV\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/investmacro.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/graph_techs_PD.png\" align=\"left\" width=\"80\"  height=\"55\"\/><\/a>\r\n\t     <a href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/1ApBOV\"><b><u>Get Our Free Metatrader 4 Indicators<\/u><\/b><\/a> - Put Our Free MetaTrader 4 Custom Indicators on your charts when you join our Weekly Newsletter<\/p><br><br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<p style=\"font-size:15px; float:left;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/f3RrHX\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/investmacro.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/cot_pie_80.png\" align=\"left\" width=\"80\"  height=\"55\"\/><\/a>\r\n\t    <a href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/f3RrHX\"><b><u>Get our Weekly Commitment of Traders Reports<\/u><\/b><\/a> - See where the biggest traders (Hedge Funds and Commercial Hedgers) are positioned in the futures markets on a weekly basis.<\/p><br><br>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<hr style=\"border: 1px solid #ddd;\">\r\n<br><\/div>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 0.5in;\">Again, <strong>Trump victory is bearish for bonds<\/strong>: &#8220;Treasuries Selloff Following Trump Victory.&#8221; (Barron&#8217;s)<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 0.5in;\">No, just kidding. <strong>Trump win is bullish for bonds<\/strong>: &#8220;Treasuries Lead Global Bond Rally as Trump Set to Win Election&#8221; (Bloomberg)<\/p>\n<p>Back and forth, and back and forth, with no end in sight. It&#8217;s the worst-possible scenario for investors seeking clarity into where U.S. treasuries will trend in the coming days and weeks.<\/p>\n<p>Now for the good news: The near- and long-term trend changes in Treasuries are not tied to the ever-shifting opinions about Trump. In our opinion, they are driven by investor psychology, which unfolds in Elliott wave patterns on price charts.<\/p>\n<p>To see some evidence of that, let&#8217;s remove the alleged &#8220;Trump&#8221; card for a second and review the recent performance in the 30-year Treasury bond market.<\/p>\n<p>In July of this year, the 30-year Bond yield was circling the drain of an all-time record low for the biggest bond-prices bull market in over 50 years.<\/p>\n<p>At the time, the news du jour wasn&#8217;t Trump, it was Brexit; specifically, the June 23 referendum vote by Britain to leave the European Union.<\/p>\n<p>According to the news-moves-markets&#8217; pundits, the Brexit bombshell was set to keep the risk-aversion fire ablaze &#8212; and by proxy, bond yields cold as ice. Here, these July 1 news items capture the sentiment at the time:<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 0.5in;\">&#8220;There&#8217;s no natural boundary for yields on the low end. 10-year yields at 1% or even lower by year-end, while the 30-year yield could take another 100 basis point tumble, that decline would be easy.&#8221; (Reuters July 1)<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 0.5in;\">&#8220;I think we just have to accept that this is a low yield world until further notice.&#8221; (L.A. Times July 1)<\/p>\n<p>But in our opinion, the one-sided bullishness surrounding bond prices, combined with a near-complete Elliott wave pattern, suggested the bond price rally was coming to an abrupt end. Our July 1 Financial Forecast&#8217;s <em>Short Term Update <\/em>sounded the alarm first:<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 0.5in;\">&#8220;The Daily Sentiment Index of bond traders is up to 95% bulls and the Commitment of Traders data shows that Large Specs (as % of OI) were at 15.44% as of two weeks ago, an all-time record net-long position.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 0.5in;\">&#8220;<strong><span style=\"background: yellow;\">The belief that bond prices will continue to rally and yields will continue to decline is near universal, which, ironically, is exactly the condition that attends trend reversals.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 0.5in;\">&#8220;A decline through 173^05.0 will indicate that a top in prices is in place. Prices could fall another 5-10 points very quickly thereafter.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.elliottwave.com\/Interest-Rates\/-\/media\/2A1A35FAD7274D03B5D1E81BF33FAE19.ashx\" alt=\"\" width=\"550\" height=\"459\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The next chart shows that, despite the daily knee-jerk reactions to Trump&#8217;s nomination (and now, victory) yields have indeed kept a steady course to the upside, with prices to the downside:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.elliottwave.com\/Interest-Rates\/-\/media\/39974150F46346FB8858694483F8DD8B.ashx\" alt=\"\" width=\"550\" height=\"450\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Bond market volatility surrounding the presidential election isn&#8217;t going to die down any time soon.<\/p>\n<p>Fortunately, that won&#8217;t interrupt your ability to gain objective insight into the world&#8217;s leading bond market &#8212; should you choose the Elliott wave method as your road map.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<table class=\"body\" style=\"border: solid 5px #EAEAEA; padding: 10px;\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\"><\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\">\n<h3><a href=\"http:\/\/www.elliottwave.com\/r.asp?acn=9cp&amp;rcn=aa640&amp;dy=aa111116&amp;url=http:\/\/www.elliottwave.com\/Free-Reports\/The-Power-of-the-Wave-Principle\">Unleash the power of the Wave Principle<\/a><\/h3>\n<p>Much like a great sports play; to appreciate a great market forecast, you have to see it. In fact, we&#8217;d like to show you four. Our examples do indeed show what can happen when Elliott analysis meets opportunity. But we&#8217;re not asking you to attend a class in &#8216;good calls.&#8217; In each of these four markets, the unfolding trends have (once again) reached critical junctures. You really, really want to see what we see, right now.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.elliottwave.com\/r.asp?acn=9cp&amp;rcn=aa640&amp;dy=aa111116&amp;url=http:\/\/www.elliottwave.com\/Free-Reports\/The-Power-of-the-Wave-Principle\"><strong>Get your report &#8212; How to Find Real Opportunities in the Markets You Trade &#8212; FREE<\/strong><\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<div>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 10px; border-top: solid 1px #CCCCCC;\"><em>This article was syndicated by Elliott Wave International and was originally published under the headline <a href=\"http:\/\/www.elliottwave.com\/r.asp?acn=9cp&amp;rcn=aa640&amp;dy=aa111116&amp;url=http:\/\/www.elliottwave.com\/Interest-Rates\/Did-US-Treasury-Bonds-Just-Get-Stumped-by-Trump\"><strong>Did U.S. Treasury Bonds Just Get Stumped by Trump?<\/strong><\/a>. EWI is the world&#8217;s largest market forecasting firm. Its staff of full-time analysts led by Chartered Market Technician Robert Prechter provides 24-hour-a-day market analysis to institutional and private investors around the world.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The answer to where T-Bonds are headed is not in the news headlines about Trump. It&#8217;s in the Elliott wave pattern By Elliott Wave International On November 9, the United States woke to the biggest political shock since Harry Truman defeated &#8220;shoe-in&#8221; Thomas E. Dewey in the 1948 U.S. presidential election. For U.S. bond investors, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-98035","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","no-post-thumbnail"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/98035","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=98035"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/98035\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":98036,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/98035\/revisions\/98036"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=98035"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=98035"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=98035"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}