{"id":96660,"date":"2016-10-11T09:48:18","date_gmt":"2016-10-11T13:48:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/countingpips.com\/?p=96660"},"modified":"2016-10-11T09:48:18","modified_gmt":"2016-10-11T13:48:18","slug":"for-how-long-can-opec-talk-up-oil-prices","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/2016\/10\/for-how-long-can-opec-talk-up-oil-prices\/","title":{"rendered":"For How Long Can OPEC Talk Up Oil Prices?"},"content":{"rendered":"
October 11, 2016<\/div>
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By OilPrice.com<\/strong><\/p>\n

Not a day passes without OPEC making oil and gas headlines, and today is surely no exception. Seemingly in lockstep with OPEC, the market is once again pacified on the promise that changes to the global oil supply glut are a’ comin’.<\/p>\n

Yesterday, the Wall Street Journal quoted anonymous sources close to the matter who had it on good authority that the Saudi’s were willing to cut “up to” 400,000 barrels per day (and that they had planned to do so all along, with or without an OPEC agreement). We can assume this figure is off August or September levels, which are near-record highs for the oil-rich country.<\/p>\n

Of course, there are 400,000 different possible production cut figures included in this “up to 400,000” range\u2014including a big fat zero\u2014so fundamentally speaking, like so much of the OPEC speak, this could mean nothing.<\/p>\n

But this isn’t the first time OPEC chatter or supposition or guesswork has moved markets, and it won’t be the last. Because, as Oilprice contributor Rakesh Upadhyay pointed out back in August<\/a>, just a month before the freeze was announced, fundamentals aren’t what’s driving the oil market\u2014speculation is. And nothing feeds speculators like OPEC.<\/p>\n

As Upadhyay wrote, “Though most analysts agreed that a production freeze was not going to alter the fundamentals, prices rose sharply, with the hedge funds adding record long positions,” as evidenced by the chart below, which shows what happened in February when OPEC cuts were on the table for Doha. Fundamentals didn’t change\u2014the glut wasn’t easing\u2014yet hedge funds and speculation on OPEC rumors drove up prices.<\/p>

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The hope quickly faded when the Doha meeting fell short of expectations, but prices continued to climb. Then, the market found new hope in the Vienna meeting. We then wondered\u2014this time quite wistfully\u2014if a freeze could\u2026 maybe, possibly\u2026 happen in that meeting over the summer, much in the same way one might hold onto hope that we might someday win the lotto. Our hopes were dashed yet again\u2014but not before the market reflexively inched up again.<\/p>\n

Soon after, Saudi comments, which indicated that a new spirit of cooperation among OPEC members might be taking shape, sending prices upward yet again. An unofficial meeting was announced. Algiers, they said. “Stabilize the market” they said (which can apparently be done with talk, rather than production cuts). Russia chimed in, vacillating between joining the “market stabilization” efforts and not. We asked ourselves, this time ever more cautiously, dare we hope again? Most thought not, but speculators threw caution to the wind, moving markets this way and that on almost a daily basis in response to every utterance regarding the freeze.<\/p>\n

Then the announcement came that OPEC had reached a deal. The earth shook, moving markets again\u2014 this time by a large percentage\u2014and this time backed up by a more tangible hope.<\/p>\n

Meanwhile, the industry scrambled to make sense of what it all meant. How big would the cut be? Which members would do the cutting? How did Saudi Arabia and Iran reach any kind of consensus when they were worlds apart\u2014on multiple fronts? And then there was the ultimate question that had every analyst from here to Venezuela furiously figuring and calculating and refiguring and recalculating: just how high could prices go?<\/p>\n

Speculators continued to largely disregard the ins and outs of the deal, which were absent at the time, and we saw markets tick up happily in response.<\/p>\n

When the size of the production cut\u2014between 240,000 and 740,000 barrels per day\u2014was announced, one could feel the weight of the disappointment within the industry overall. The analysts wanted more; wanted deeper. Most OPEC members had been scrambling to reach record high oil production leading up to the meeting, some successful. Given current production levels, the small cut was seen by most analysts as a mere token gesture that would do very little to address what most would agree is the reason behind the price “problem”\u2014the global supply glut.<\/p>\n

And further skepticism surfaced over the fact that no specific member had agreed to any specific cut\u2014they just agreed that as a group, “they” would do some cutting\u2014some months down the road\u2014and that the “they” in that equation wouldn’t be Iran. And it wouldn’t be Nigeria. And it wouldn’t be Libya.<\/p>\n

And still, amid all this ambiguity and mystery, and with some distant promise to shave a mere 240,000 barrels of oil per day off OPEC’s record production figures, oil climbed above $50 a barrel. Today, Brent is trading at $52.64, which is a 12-month high<\/a>-a monumental swing on mere talk.<\/p>\n

And sure, some minor fundamentals have changed, such as five weeks of crude oil inventory draws in the U.S., but those inventory numbers are still way too high. In reality, OPEC hasn’t actually done anything to ease the glut. They’ve just talked\u2026 about talking\u2026 two months from now<\/span><\/span>. In fact, the only actions that OPEC has taken is to pump oil at record paces, adding to the glut, and hoping that speculators will lap up what they’re dishing out in rhetoric. That’s what OPEC is doing today.<\/p>\n

So happy are the markets on this wispy nothingness, in fact, that some are suggesting the oil markets are poised for a major meltdown, as speculators buy up contracts that are equal to a year’s worth of U.S. consumption\u2014amounts that can’t possibly be delivered and will be pushed off to next month’s contracts or cancelled. To put this in perspective, there are 480 million barrels<\/a> of oil on order for delivery in November to Cushing, Oklahoma\u2014a facility that is capable of handling only 50 million per month.<\/p>\n

What will also be pushed aside are some other cold, hard facts, such as Libya’s production increases, or Iraq’s, or Iran’s, and how fundamentally, this means the remaining OPEC members would have to make deeper cuts to offset these increases and still meet the organization’s promised cut. Deeper cuts that could hurt whichever member is tasked with taking on this burden.<\/p>\n

But to keep the market’s eye on the OPEC ball despite market saturation, the Algerian Energy Minister, desperate to save his country from an economic collapse, made yet another announcement on behalf of OPEC that the bloc would be willing to cut yet another 1%<\/a> “if we need to” on top of the cuts proposed out of the meeting in Algiers, adding that there would be even more meetings forthcoming\u2014the first of which will be in Istanbul onOct 9-13<\/span><\/span>, again, on the sidelines of another energy meeting, the World Energy Congress. But this time, the informal talks about the freeze will include non-OPEC Russia and non-OPEC Azerbaijan<\/a>.<\/p>\n

As Reuters reports<\/a>, the meeting signals that OPEC “is more serious now about managing the global supply glut.” Russia apparently doesn’t share this perceived seriousness, with Russia’s Energy Minister Alexander Novaksaying on Friday<\/span><\/span><\/a> that he doesn’t expect to sign a deal with OPEC during this meeting. Just more talk.<\/p>\n

And yet another meeting is scheduled in Vienna for October 28 and 29<\/span><\/span>, according to OPEC sources, followed by a “long-term strategy” meeting on November 1-4<\/span><\/span>, and a technical meeting again in Vienna on November 23 and 24<\/span><\/span>, and possibly a follow-up meeting of the High Level Committee a day later on November 25<\/span><\/span>. Finally, recommendations will be presented at the previously disclosed and much anticipated meeting on November 30<\/span><\/span>.<\/p>\n

That’s plenty of evenly spaced talk that is sure to keep OPEC in media headlines, and give the oil speculators something to play with until that time. After that, it’s anyone’s guess as to how long prices will hold, but it’s likely that regardless of the outcome of the 30 November<\/span><\/span> recommendation meeting, OPEC will continue to feed the beast with talk\u2014and the market will readily accept the handout, even if it’s in lieu of the fundamentals.<\/p>\n

By Julianne Geiger for Oilprice.com<\/a><\/p>\n

Link to original article: http:\/\/oilprice.com\/Energy\/Energy-General\/For-How-Long-Can-OPEC-Talk-Up-Oil-Prices.html<\/a><\/p>\n

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