{"id":67113,"date":"2015-01-26T11:39:57","date_gmt":"2015-01-26T16:39:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/countingpips.com\/?p=67113"},"modified":"2015-01-26T11:39:57","modified_gmt":"2015-01-26T16:39:57","slug":"thoughts-from-the-frontline-how-global-interest-rates-deceive-markets","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/2015\/01\/thoughts-from-the-frontline-how-global-interest-rates-deceive-markets\/","title":{"rendered":"Thoughts from the Frontline: How Global Interest Rates Deceive Markets"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"inves-1220819608\" class=\"inves-below-title-posts inves-entity-placement\"><div id =\"posts_date_custom\"><div align=\"left\">January 26, 2015<\/div><hr style=\"border: none; border-bottom: 3px solid black;\">\r\n<\/div><\/div><h4>By John Mauldin<\/h4>\n<div class=\"body\"><img style=\"float: right; margin: 15px 0 15px 15px;\" alt=\"\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: .5in;\"><strong>\u201cYou keep on using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: .5in;\">\u2013 Inigo Montoya, <em>The Princess Bride<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: .5in;\">\u201cIn the economic sphere an act, a habit, an institution, a law produces not only one effect, but a series of effects. Of these effects, the first alone is immediate; it appears simultaneously with its cause; <em><strong>it is seen<\/strong>.<\/em> The other effects emerge only subsequently; <em><strong>they are not seen<\/strong>;<\/em> we are fortunate if we <em><strong>foresee<\/strong><\/em> them.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: .5in;\">\u201cThere is only one difference between a bad economist and a good one: the bad economist confines himself to the <em><strong>visible<\/strong><\/em> effect; the good economist takes into account both the effect that can be seen and those effects that must be <strong><em>foreseen<\/em><\/strong><em>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: .5in;\">\u201cYet this difference is tremendous; for it almost always happens that when the immediate consequence is favorable, the later consequences are disastrous, and vice versa. Whence it follows that the bad economist pursues a small present good that will be followed by a great evil to come, while the good economist pursues a great good to come, at the risk of a small present evil.\u201d<\/p><div id=\"inves-286766913\" class=\"inves-in-content inves-entity-placement\"><hr style=\"border: 1px solid #ddd;\">\r\n<div id=\"inpost_ads_header\">\r\n<p style=\"font-size:10px; float:left; color:#666;\">Free Reports:<\/p><\/div>\r\n<div id=\"inpost_ads\"> \r\n<p style=\"font-size:15px; float:left;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/1ApBOV\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/investmacro.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/graph_techs_PD.png\" align=\"left\" width=\"80\"  height=\"55\"\/><\/a>\r\n\t     <a href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/1ApBOV\"><b><u>Get Our Free Metatrader 4 Indicators<\/u><\/b><\/a> - Put Our Free MetaTrader 4 Custom Indicators on your charts when you join our Weekly Newsletter<\/p><br><br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<p style=\"font-size:15px; float:left;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/f3RrHX\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/investmacro.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/cot_pie_80.png\" align=\"left\" width=\"80\"  height=\"55\"\/><\/a>\r\n\t    <a href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/f3RrHX\"><b><u>Get our Weekly Commitment of Traders Reports<\/u><\/b><\/a> - See where the biggest traders (Hedge Funds and Commercial Hedgers) are positioned in the futures markets on a weekly basis.<\/p><br><br>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<hr style=\"border: 1px solid #ddd;\">\r\n<br><\/div>\n<p style=\"margin-left: .5in;\">\u2013 From an 1850 essay by Fr\u00e9d\u00e9ric Bastiat, \u201cThat Which Is Seen and That Which Is Unseen\u201d<\/p>\n<p>All right class, it\u2019s time for an open book test. I\u2019m going to give you a list of yields on various 10-year bonds, and I want to you to tell me what it means.<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: .5in;\">United States: 1.80%<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: .5in;\">Germany: 0.36%<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: .5in;\">France: 0.54%<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: .5in;\">Italy: 1.56%<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: .5in;\">UK: 1.48%<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: .5in;\">Canada: 1.365%<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: .5in;\">Australia: 2.63%<\/p>\n<p style=\"margin-left: .5in;\">Japan: 0.22%<\/p>\n<p>I see that hand up in the back. Yes, the list does appear to tell us what interest rates the market is willing to take in order to hold money in a particular country\u2019s currency for 10 years. It may or may not tell us about the creditworthiness of the country, but it does tell us something about the expectations that investors have about potential returns on other possible investments. The more astute among you will notice that French bonds have dropped from 2.38% exactly one year ago to today\u2019s rather astonishing low of 0.54%. Likewise, Germany has seen its 10-year Bund rates drop from 1.66% to a shockingly low 0.36%. What does it mean that European interest rates simply fell out of bed this week? Has the opportunity set in Europe diminished? Are the French really that much better a credit risk than the United States is? If not, what is that number, 0.54%, telling us? What in the wide, wide world of fixed-income investing is going on?<\/p>\n<p>Quick segue \u2013 but hopefully a little fun. One of the pleasures of having children is that you get to watch the classic movie <em>The Princess Bride<\/em> over and over. (If you haven\u2019t appreciated it, go borrow a few kids for the weekend and watch it.) There is a classic line in the movie that is indelibly imprinted on my mind.<\/p>\n<p>In the middle of the film, a villainous but supposedly genius Sicilian named Vizzini keeps using the word \u201cinconceivable\u201d to describe certain events. A mysterious ship is following the group at sea? \u201cInconceivable!\u201d The ship\u2019s captain starts climbing the bad guys\u2019 rope up the Cliffs of Insanity and even starts to gain on them? \u201cInconceivable!\u201d The villain doesn\u2019t fall from said cliff after Vizzini cuts the rope that all of them were climbing? \u201cInconceivable!\u201d Finally, master swordsman \u2013 and my favorite character in the movie \u2013 Inigo, famous for this and other awesome catchphrases, comments on Vizzini\u2019s use of this word <em>inconceivable:<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u201cYou keep on using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>(You can see all the uses of Vizzini\u2019s use of the word <em>inconceivable<\/em> and hear Inigo\u2019s classic retort <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mauldineconomics.com\/go\/ukqgc-2\/PIP\">here<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p>When it comes to interpreting what current interest rates are telling us about the markets in various countries, I have to say that I do not think they mean what the market seems to think they mean. In fact, buried in that list of bond yields is \u201cfalse information\u201d \u2013 information so distorted and yet so readily misunderstood that it leads to wrong conclusions and decisions \u2013 and to bad investments. In today\u2019s letter we are going to look at what interest rates actually mean in the modern-day context of currency wars and interest-rate manipulation by central banks. I think you will come to agree with me that an interest rate may not mean what the market thinks it means.<\/p>\n<p>Let me begin by briefly summarizing what I want to demonstrate in this letter. First, I think Japanese interest rates not only contain no information but also that markets are misreading this non-information as meaningful because they are interpreting the data as if it were normal market information in a familiar market environment, when the truth is that we sailed beyond the boundaries of the known economic world some time ago. The old maps are no longer reliable. Secondly, Europe is making the decision to go down the same path as the Japanese have done; and contrary to the expectations of European central bankers, the potential to end up with the same results as Japan is rather high.<\/p>\n<p>The false information paradox is highlighted by the recent Swiss National Bank decision. Couple that with the surprise decisions by Canada and Denmark to cut rates, the complete retracement of the euro against the yen over the past few weeks, and Bank of Japan Governor Kuroda\u2019s telling the World Economic Forum in Davos that he is prepared to do more (shades of \u201cwhatever it takes\u201d) to create inflation, and you have the opening salvos of the next skirmish in the ongoing currency wars I predicted a few years ago in <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.mauldineconomics.com\/go\/ukq3d-2\/PIP\">Code Red<\/a><\/em>. All of this means that capital is going to be misallocated and that the current efforts to create jobs and growth and inflation are insufficient. Indeed, I think those efforts might very well produce a net negative effect.<\/p>\n<p>But before we go any farther, a quick note. We will start taking registrations for the 12<sup>th<\/sup> annual Strategic Investment Conference next week. There will be an early-bird rate for those of you who go ahead to register quickly. The conference will run from April 29 through May 2 at the Manchester Grand Hyatt in San Diego. For those of you familiar with the conference, there will be the \u201cusual\u201d lineup of brilliant speakers and thought leaders trying to help us understand investing in a world of divergence. For those not familiar, this conference is unlike the vast majority of other investment conferences, in that speakers representing various sponsors do not pay to address the audience. Instead, we bring in only \u201cA-list\u201d speakers from around the world, people you really want to meet and talk with. This year we\u2019re going to have a particularly large and diverse group of presenters, and we structure the conference so that attendees can mingle with the speakers and with each other.<\/p>\n<p>I am often told by attendees that this is the best economic and investment conference they attend in any given year. I think it is a measure of the quality of the conference that many of the speakers seek us out. Not only do they want to speak, they want to attend the conference to hear and interact with the other speakers and conference guests. This conference is full of speakers that other speakers (especially including myself) want to hear. And you will, too. Save the date and look for registration and other information shortly in your mail.<\/p>\n<p>Now let\u2019s consider what today\u2019s interest rates do and do not mean as we navigate uncharted waters.<\/p>\n<p><strong><a name=\"are\"><\/a>Are We All Turning Japanese?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Japan is an interesting case study. It\u2019s a highly developed nation with a very sophisticated culture, increasingly productive in dollar terms (although in yen terms nominal GDP has not moved all that much), and carrying an unbelievable 250% debt-to-GDP burden, but with a 10-year bond rate of 0.22%, which in theory could eventually mean that the total interest expenses of Japan would be less than those of the US on 5-6 times the amount of debt. Japan has an aging population and a savings rate that has plunged in recent years. The country has been saddled with either low inflation or deflation for most of the past 25 years. At the same time, it is an export power, with some of the world\u2019s most competitive companies in automobiles, electronics, robotics, automation, machine tools, etc. The Japanese have a large national balance sheet from decades of running trade surpluses. If nothing else, they have given the world sushi, for which I will always hold them in high regard.<\/p>\n<p>We talk about Japan\u2019s \u201clost decades\u201d during which growth has been muted at best. They are just coming out of a triple-dip recession after a disastrous downturn during the Great Recession. And through it all, for decades, there is been a widening government deficit. The chart below shows the yawning gap between Japanese government expenditures and revenues.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"width: 550px; height: 486px;\" src=\"http:\/\/d21uq3hx4esec9.cloudfront.net\/uploads\/newsletters\/150126-01.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><\/p>\n<p>This next chart, from a Societe Generale report, seems to show that the Japanese are financing 40% of their budget. I say \u201cseems\u201d because there is a quirk in the way the Japanese do their fiscal accounting. Pay attention, class. <strong>This is important to understand. If you do not grasp this, you will not understand Japanese budgets and how they deal with their debt. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>To continue reading this article from <em><strong>Thoughts from the Frontline<\/strong><\/em> \u2013 a free weekly publication by John Mauldin, renowned financial expert, best-selling author, and Chairman of Mauldin Economics \u2013 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mauldineconomics.com\/go\/ukq6e-2\/PIP\">please click here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.mauldineconomics.com\/go\/ukq9f-2\/PIP\">Important Disclosures<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"xvMdV95u77zU\" style=\"clear: both;\">The article <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mauldineconomics.com\/go\/ukqug-2\/PIP\" rel=\"permalink\">Thoughts from the Frontline: How Global Interest Rates Deceive Markets<\/a> was originally published at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mauldineconomics.com\/go\/ukqxh-2\/PIP\">mauldineconomics.com<\/a>.<\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both;\"><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By John Mauldin \u201cYou keep on using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.\u201d \u2013 Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride \u201cIn the economic sphere an act, a habit, an institution, a law produces not only one effect, but a series of effects. 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