{"id":62699,"date":"2014-10-28T21:34:06","date_gmt":"2014-10-29T01:34:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/countingpips.com\/?p=62699"},"modified":"2014-10-28T21:34:06","modified_gmt":"2014-10-29T01:34:06","slug":"china-a-very-emotional-market","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/2014\/10\/china-a-very-emotional-market\/","title":{"rendered":"China: a Very Emotional Market"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"inves-3256090843\" class=\"inves-below-title-posts inves-entity-placement\"><div id =\"posts_date_custom\"><div align=\"left\">October 28, 2014<\/div><hr style=\"border: none; border-bottom: 3px solid black;\">\r\n<\/div><\/div><p>By <a href=\"http:\/\/www.MoneyMorning.com.au\" target=\"_blank\"><u>MoneyMorning.com.au<\/u><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I&rsquo;m writing to you from Beijing today. Why Beijing? It&rsquo;s  part of an ongoing effort to bring subscribers of <em>New Frontier Investor<\/em> the most up to date facts and breaking trends from the world&rsquo;s largest <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/economy\/global-economy\/emerging-markets\" title=\"More on emerging markets\">emerging  market<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Over the past few weeks, I&rsquo;ve visited personal contacts in a  lot of second tier cities that you won&rsquo;t find on most tourist maps. And with  good reason. There are not a lot of tourist attractions to draw you there. But  these cities do have heaps of development potential ahead of them<\/p>\n<p>It is quite a jump from Xining to Beijing. Xining is one of  the second tier cities I just visited in search of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/best-investment-opportunities\" title=\"More on investment opportunities\">new investment opportunities<\/a>. I never noticed how clean Beijing was before I paid attention to  how dirty some of the second tier cities are.<\/p>\n<p>Beijing is a megacity with more than 20 million people. It  has massive infrastructure, a lot of residential buildings, a lot of commercial  buildings and a lot of food, entertainment and shopping areas.<\/p>\n<p>What differentiates Beijing from Shanghai, is that Beijing  has more history, culture and politics. Shanghai, on the other hand, is all  about finance, consumption and internationalisation.<\/p><div id=\"inves-2688077005\" class=\"inves-in-content inves-entity-placement\"><hr style=\"border: 1px solid #ddd;\">\r\n<div id=\"inpost_ads_header\">\r\n<p style=\"font-size:10px; float:left; color:#666;\">Free Reports:<\/p><\/div>\r\n<div id=\"inpost_ads\"> \r\n<p style=\"font-size:15px; float:left;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/1ApBOV\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/investmacro.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/graph_techs_PD.png\" align=\"left\" width=\"80\"  height=\"55\"\/><\/a>\r\n\t     <a href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/1ApBOV\"><b><u>Get Our Free Metatrader 4 Indicators<\/u><\/b><\/a> - Put Our Free MetaTrader 4 Custom Indicators on your charts when you join our Weekly Newsletter<\/p><br><br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<p style=\"font-size:15px; float:left;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/f3RrHX\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/investmacro.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/cot_pie_80.png\" align=\"left\" width=\"80\"  height=\"55\"\/><\/a>\r\n\t    <a href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/f3RrHX\"><b><u>Get our Weekly Commitment of Traders Reports<\/u><\/b><\/a> - See where the biggest traders (Hedge Funds and Commercial Hedgers) are positioned in the futures markets on a weekly basis.<\/p><br><br>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<hr style=\"border: 1px solid #ddd;\">\r\n<br><\/div>\n<p>Beijing is like Canberra or Washington DC in terms of its  political status. There are government buildings everywhere. This is where all  the shots are called, and where all the political elites live.<\/p>\n<p>There is a heightened political awareness and a sense of  political power in the air. That and unbearable pollution&hellip;<\/p>\n<div align=\"center\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/portphillippublishing.com.au\/images\/MPR20141028a.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/portphillippublishing.com.au\/images\/MPR20141028a.jpg\" width=\"236\" height=\"383\" border=\"0\"><\/a><br \/>\n<em><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/portphillippublishing.com.au\/images\/MPR20141028a.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">Click to enlarge<\/a><\/em><\/div>\n<\/p>\n<p>That&rsquo;s today&rsquo;s pollution level. The air is actually burning  my nostrils. And it looks like the US diplomats have it even worse.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">\n<h2><strong>Democracy is  fundamental<\/strong><\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p>Today, I spoke with a multi-millionaire art dealer. Like  most of my connections in China &mdash; either friends, or friends of my friends &mdash; he  asked that I not use his name. You see, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/economy\/china-economy\" title=\"More on China's economy\"><strong>China<\/strong><\/a> is a very different place from  Australia. And with the  party now cracking down on online activists, people are quite nervous.<\/p>\n<p>Anyhow, while this multi-millionaire cannot be considered to  be among the mega-rich in China, he is definitely among the elite upper class.  I spoke with him in his high-price apartment in China. Places like this go for  100,000RMB (AU$16,700) per square metre.<\/p>\n<p>He was nice to enough to pick me up from the hotel in his  Mercedes.<\/p>\n<p>We talked about the art and antique market in China.  Eventually the conversation turned to various <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/investments\/investment-strategy\" title=\"More on investment strategy\">investable asset classes<\/a> in China  and the outlook for China&rsquo;s economic development.<\/p>\n<p>Given that he&rsquo;s a descendant of high ranking party  officials, he then surprised me with a rather seasoned political view on China,  democracy and law. However, that&rsquo;s a story for another time.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">\n<h2><strong>The measuring  stick for China&rsquo;s wealthy<\/strong><\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailyreckoning.com.au\/category\/global-economy\/asian-economy\/chinese-economy-1\/\" title=\"More on China's economy from The Daily Reckoning\" target=\"_blank\">China&rsquo;s art market<\/a> peaked in the spring of 2011. By autumn,  a trend of deflation in the art market became apparent.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>&lsquo;<em>This used to be a market for art lovers and collectors,  it was never about investment and making money<\/em>,&rsquo; he said.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>The boom in economic development, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/commodities\" title=\"More on commodities\">commodity prices<\/a> and asset  prices in China in the 2000s led to massive wealth creation. This wealth stayed  safely in equities until the bubble burst after the Global Financial Crisis.<\/p>\n<p>My wealthy friend went on to explain:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>&lsquo;<em>The guys who got &ldquo;quick  money&rdquo; from the industrial boom in energy, manufacturing and heavy industries  found themselves in a bit of a problem. They needed a place to store and grow  their wealth; they were eyeing the art market<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>&lsquo;<em>This was the same &ldquo;quick  money&rdquo; that was created from industrial development and  corruption. These guys were not &lsquo;smart money&rsquo;, they were &lsquo;dumb money&rsquo;, because  they didn&rsquo;t have a clue about the art market.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&lsquo;<em>As a result, a lot of these  people got burned by fake art. This of course served them right, because it was  too easy for them to get this money in the first place. Qi Bai Shi&rsquo;s painting  sold for 400 million yuan<\/em> [AU$66.7  million]<em> at the height of the market.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&lsquo;<em>But soon the party was over,  deflation set in, wealth was evaporating quickly. Something that auctioned for  60 million just a two years before, would now be privately offered at 15  million in 2011.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&lsquo;<em>It is a similar phenomenon as  in properties. Bubbles were only a matter of time, and it didn&rsquo;t take long for  the art bubble to burst. The thing about art is that it doesn&rsquo;t have any real  use. So, many of the traders have decided to open private antique and art  museums now days.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&lsquo;<em>This is how capital works, it  flows around. The problem is it has a tendency to drive bubbles. This is what  happened to all the asset classes in China.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&lsquo;<em>These gold miners don&rsquo;t know  anything about art or culture, and they thought they could find the next  booming asset in art, then after that maybe something else. So they &ldquo;jump&rdquo; from  one asset class to the next in the hope to ride the next bubble. And of course  it doesn&rsquo;t work; they just end up getting burned.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&lsquo;<em>The problem with the art  market is, if something is &ldquo;real&rdquo;, then it can never be too expensive because  there are only so many paintings from the Song Dynasty, they are almost  priceless. However, if something is fake, then it is worthless<\/em>.&rsquo;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>I wondered if there was a way to tell which ones are &lsquo;real&rsquo;  and which ones are &lsquo;fake&rsquo;?<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>&lsquo;<em>Of course there is, and it is  all about experience. If you have seen a lot of art and a lot of artists and  are familiar with the art in a particular historical period, then you can tell  if something is true or not.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&lsquo;<em>For example, there is a  certain way &lsquo;shrimps&rsquo; are drawn by the masters in China, and the fake ones get  these details wrong, like how many legs are drawn on the shrimp.<\/em>&rsquo;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Eventually, with a little prodding from me, the conversation  turned back towards investable assets.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>&lsquo;<em>Right now, capital is flowing  back into equities. But a downturn in the art market can last between 5&ndash;8  years.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&lsquo;<em>In terms of Chinese equities,  my experience is that valuation doesn&rsquo;t really work, because there is too much  state interference and institutional control in China. This means you can&rsquo;t use  valuation metrics or even fundamental analysis to predict share prices.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&lsquo;<em>It is a very &ldquo;emotional&rdquo;  market<\/em>.&rsquo; <\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>An emotional market. He hit the nail on the head with that  one. Which is precisely why I&rsquo;m here. <\/p>\n<p>You can&rsquo;t judge Chinese market emotions from afar. And if you can&rsquo;t usevaluation metrics or even fundamental analysis to predict share prices, you  need to get into the thick of it all. Only then will you have the all important <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/pro1.portphillippublishing.com.au\/274395\/\">inside  angle on the investment opportunities of tomorrow<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ken Wangdong<a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/u\/0\/106624007815246307445\/about\">+<\/a><br \/>\n  Emerging Markets Analyst, <em>New Frontier  Investor<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/106516983215198267222\/about\" title=\"Join Money Morning on Google Plus -- and read about the things we can't always fit into our regular essays\"><u>Join Money Morning on Google+ <\/u><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The post <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20141028\/china-emotional-market.html\">China: a Very Emotional Market<\/a> appeared first on <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\">Stock Market News, Finance and Investments | Money Morning Australia<\/a>.<\/p>\n<div class=\"feedflare\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=AyXm7EbKX1g:Upv6mDSHXBg:yIl2AUoC8zA\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?d=yIl2AUoC8zA\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=AyXm7EbKX1g:Upv6mDSHXBg:V_sGLiPBpWU\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?i=AyXm7EbKX1g:Upv6mDSHXBg:V_sGLiPBpWU\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=AyXm7EbKX1g:Upv6mDSHXBg:gIN9vFwOqvQ\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?i=AyXm7EbKX1g:Upv6mDSHXBg:gIN9vFwOqvQ\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/MoneyMorningAustralia\/~4\/AyXm7EbKX1g\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\" \/><br \/>\nBy <a href=\"http:\/\/www.MoneyMorning.com.au\" target=\"_blank\"><u>MoneyMorning.com.au<\/u><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By MoneyMorning.com.au I&rsquo;m writing to you from Beijing today. Why Beijing? It&rsquo;s part of an ongoing effort to bring subscribers of New Frontier Investor the most up to date facts and breaking trends from the world&rsquo;s largest emerging market. Over the past few weeks, I&rsquo;ve visited personal contacts in a lot of second tier cities [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-62699","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","no-post-thumbnail"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/62699","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=62699"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/62699\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=62699"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=62699"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=62699"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}