{"id":61608,"date":"2014-10-09T01:49:00","date_gmt":"2014-10-09T05:49:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/countingpips.com\/?p=61608"},"modified":"2014-10-09T01:49:00","modified_gmt":"2014-10-09T05:49:00","slug":"what-if-stocks-just-arent-worth-the-trouble","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/2014\/10\/what-if-stocks-just-arent-worth-the-trouble\/","title":{"rendered":"What if Stocks Just Aren\u2019t Worth the Trouble?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"inves-3200378166\" class=\"inves-below-title-posts inves-entity-placement\"><div id =\"posts_date_custom\"><div align=\"left\">October 9, 2014<\/div><hr style=\"border: none; border-bottom: 3px solid black;\">\r\n<\/div><\/div><p>By <a href=\"http:\/\/www.MoneyMorning.com.au\" target=\"_blank\"><u>MoneyMorning.com.au<\/u><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Overnight the US market rebounded, after a crushing blow the  night before.<\/p>\n<p>The Dow Jones Industrial Average gained 274 points. That&rsquo;s  1.6%.<\/p>\n<p>The NASDAQ added 83.4 points. That&rsquo;s 1.9%.<\/p>\n<p>Today, the Aussie S&amp;P\/ASX 200 index should be in good  shape after falling as much as 75 points shortly after yesterday&rsquo;s open.<\/p>\n<p>As for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/commodities\/oil-and-gas\/crude-oil\" title=\"more on crude oil\">crude oil<\/a>, it&rsquo;s down again. As I write, it&rsquo;s trading  at US$87.71.<\/p><div id=\"inves-2413339634\" class=\"inves-in-content inves-entity-placement\"><hr style=\"border: 1px solid #ddd;\">\r\n<div id=\"inpost_ads_header\">\r\n<p style=\"font-size:10px; float:left; color:#666;\">Free Reports:<\/p><\/div>\r\n<div id=\"inpost_ads\"> \r\n<p style=\"font-size:15px; float:left;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/1ApBOV\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/investmacro.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/graph_techs_PD.png\" align=\"left\" width=\"80\"  height=\"55\"\/><\/a>\r\n\t     <a href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/1ApBOV\"><b><u>Get Our Free Metatrader 4 Indicators<\/u><\/b><\/a> - Put Our Free MetaTrader 4 Custom Indicators on your charts when you join our Weekly Newsletter<\/p><br><br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<p style=\"font-size:15px; float:left;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/f3RrHX\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/investmacro.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/cot_pie_80.png\" align=\"left\" width=\"80\"  height=\"55\"\/><\/a>\r\n\t    <a href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/f3RrHX\"><b><u>Get our Weekly Commitment of Traders Reports<\/u><\/b><\/a> - See where the biggest traders (Hedge Funds and Commercial Hedgers) are positioned in the futures markets on a weekly basis.<\/p><br><br>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<hr style=\"border: 1px solid #ddd;\">\r\n<br><\/div>\n<p>As I&rsquo;ll explain to readers of <em>Tactical Wealth<\/em> (formerly <em>The  Denning Report<\/em>) next week, the recent fall for oil is just the beginning.<\/p>\n<p>If I&rsquo;m right about the geopolitical manoeuvring going on  behind the scenes at OPEC, the market will crush the oil price over the next 18  months.<\/p>\n<p>But I&rsquo;ll save the full details of that, and the stock tips  to profit from it, for <em>Tactical Wealth<\/em> subscribers. And if you&rsquo;re wondering how to subscribe to <em>Tactical Wealth<\/em>, I&rsquo;m afraid you can&rsquo;t right now.<\/p>\n<p>We&rsquo;ve closed the doors to new subscribers for the time  being. I&rsquo;ll let you know when we decide to accept new members. But that&rsquo;s for  another day.<\/p>\n<p>Back to the market. Just where <em>is<\/em> the market today?<\/p>\n<p>The answer is it&rsquo;s in no-man&rsquo;s land.<\/p>\n<p>It&rsquo;s neither a bull market nor a bear market.<\/p>\n<p>Those who think the market will ultimately go higher are  starting to worry that they could be wrong, and that <strong>stocks<\/strong> will fall.<\/p>\n<p>Those who predicted the market will fall are wondering  whether this is the big fall or whether <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/stock-market\/stocks-and-bonds\" title=\"more on stocks\">stocks could bounce<\/a> from here.<\/p>\n<p>It&rsquo;s enough to make you wonder why you&rsquo;d bother investing in  stocks at all. The market this year certainly hasn&rsquo;t done enough to make our  old pal Vern Gowdie change his view on stocks.<\/p>\n<p>He&rsquo;s had an all-cash asset allocation strategy for the past  few years, since getting out of the financial planning game in 2007.<\/p>\n<p>You can read why <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/pro1.portphillippublishing.com.au\/268126\/\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>As someone who thinks every investor should have money in  stocks, to me, Vern&rsquo;s position seems crazy&hellip;except&hellip;the longer the Aussie market  goes nowhere, the less crazy it becomes.<\/p>\n<p>Over the past five years, the Aussie S&amp;P\/ASX 200 index  is up just 13.4%. That&rsquo;s an average of 2.7% per year. That doesn&rsquo;t include  dividends. If you add in dividends, it&rsquo;s probably another 4&ndash;5% per year.<\/p>\n<p>That&rsquo;s certainly better than the average return on a cash  savings account. On an after tax basis, it&rsquo;s probably close to double the  return.<\/p>\n<p>Over the long run, this seemingly small difference between  cash returns and stock returns has a compounding effect.<\/p>\n<p>For instance, a $1,000 cash deposit with monthly compounding  interest, at an annual interest rate of 4%, will give you $1,491 after 10  years.<\/p>\n<p>By contrast, $1,000 in a stock that pays a 5% dividend  yield, and where the stock price grows as low as 2.7% per year (and where the  dividend growth is the same low 2.7% per year), returns you $1,885 after 10  years.<\/p>\n<p>That&rsquo;s an 80% improvement on your return compared to cash.<\/p>\n<p>But that&rsquo;s not where it ends. If you can go one step further  and reinvest the dividends rather than taking cash, after 10 years the total  value is $2,126.<\/p>\n<p>That&rsquo;s a 129% improvement compared to cash.<\/p>\n<p>It&rsquo;s a no-brainer.<\/p>\n<p>Or is it?<\/p>\n<p>Vern&rsquo;s view is that, based on the current market dynamics,  it&rsquo;s just not worth the risk.<\/p>\n<p>It&rsquo;s hard to argue against his point. The 129% improvement  compared to cash assumes that the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/stock-market\/australian-share-market-stocks\" title=\"more on the stock market \">stock market<\/a> gradually rises over the next 10  years.<\/p>\n<p>But what if it doesn&rsquo;t go up?<\/p>\n<p>What will happen if today is the equivalent of November  2007? That was when stocks just started to turn down after reaching a peak. At  the time, investment pros said the market &lsquo;needed a small correction&rsquo;. They  said that stocks could fall 5-10%, but then they would rebound higher.<\/p>\n<p>But they didn&rsquo;t. Over the following 10 months, the stock  index halved, and many stocks (especially mining stocks) fell much further.  Some fell 90% or more&hellip;a few went bust, such as supposed blue-chip Babcock &amp;  Brown.<\/p>\n<p>It&rsquo;s nearly seven years since the<a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/stock-market\/australian-share-market-stocks\" title=\"more on the Australian Market \"> Aussie market <\/a>hit a peak.  Buying stocks at that point hasn&rsquo;t been a good experience for investors.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, that assumes an investor only ever bought stocks  once&hellip;right at the peak.<\/p>\n<p>Most investors don&rsquo;t do that. You buy at various times. If  you&rsquo;re a long-term investor, you buy when stocks look cheap. If you&rsquo;re a  contrarian investor, you buy when stocks look awful &mdash; such as today.<\/p>\n<p>But when it comes down to it, it&rsquo;s all about what type of  investor you are and whether you have the stomach for the risk. Buying stocks  is risky. There&rsquo;s no getting away from that. But even in the riskiest markets,  it&rsquo;s possible to make some extraordinary gains.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<h2>Small-caps safer than blue-chips?<\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p>Mining stock Rio Tinto [ASX:RIO] got a nice bump yesterday.  Reports emerged that London-listed mining giant Glencore [LON:GLEN] had made a  takeover bid for Rio.<\/p>\n<p>Rio&rsquo;s board say they have rejected the bid and that there  are no ongoing discussions with Glencore.<\/p>\n<p>Needless to say, after the bump, Rio shares have taken a dip  today.<\/p>\n<p>In reality, even with the takeover speculation it has been a  bad year for Rio shareholders. The stock is only down 1.7% since the start of  the year, but it&rsquo;s down 11.3% in just over a month.<\/p>\n<p>When the market looks a bit wobbly, institutional investors  with an exposure to the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/commodities\/resources-and-mining\" title=\"more on resources\">resources sector<\/a> will typically seek to sell &lsquo;single  story&rsquo; stocks and buy a diversified stock instead.<\/p>\n<p>That&rsquo;s why Rio and BHP Billiton [ASX:BHP] have held up  remarkably well this year as the rest of the mining sector takes a pounding.  Aside from the big four banks, the Aussie market is still a resources market.<\/p>\n<p>No fund manager worth their salt can say they&rsquo;re investing  in the Aussie market but then ignore the miners. That&rsquo;s especially true for  foreign institutions.<\/p>\n<p>They won&rsquo;t buy into Telstra [ASX:TLS], Woolworths [ASX:WOW]  or JB Hi-Fi [ASX:JBH] in any meaningful way, because they can get world-beating  stocks in those sectors in their own markets.<\/p>\n<p>But they can&rsquo;t necessarily get exposure to world-beating  mining stocks.<\/p>\n<p>The trouble is, by bailing out of the non-diversified <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/stock-market\/small-cap-stocks\" title=\"more on small-cap stocks\">small-cap and mid-cap stocks<\/a>, investors can miss the biggest action. Sure,  you&rsquo;re not likely to see the share price of a big diversified miner fall 40% in  a matter of seconds.<\/p>\n<p>But you&rsquo;re also not likely to see it gain 40% in a matter of  days either&hellip;or 300% in a matter of weeks.<\/p>\n<p>That&rsquo;s exactly what has happened with another good news  story from small-cap analyst Tim Dohrmann. A small African offshore oil and gas  stock, which has been on the <em><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/pro1.portphillippublishing.com.au\/268128\/\" target=\"_blank\">Australian  Small-Cap Investigator<\/a><\/em> buy  list for nearly three years, finally struck oil.<\/p>\n<p>Based on today&rsquo;s price, it&rsquo;s up 340% on the recommended buy  price. Almost all of that gain has come in the past few weeks. Now, that  doesn&rsquo;t mean that you should choose between putting $10,000 in Rio or $10,000  in a tiny offshore driller. That&rsquo;s not a fair comparison.<\/p>\n<p>What it does mean is that if you can make big returns like  that from even one-in-five of your small-cap stocks, you can put less of your  capital at risk because the potential returns are so much greater.<\/p>\n<p>In other words, instead of putting $10,000 into Rio for your  resources exposure, why not put $1,000 into each of three small or mid-cap  resources stocks?<\/p>\n<p>The worst that can happen is that each of those stocks goes  bust. You&rsquo;d be unlucky for that to happen. But even if it does, you&rsquo;ve still  only lost three grand.<\/p>\n<p>I know, all of that goes against the conventional wisdom of blue-chip  stocks being safer than small-cap stocks. On a like-for-like basis, it&rsquo;s true.  But if you change how you view small-cap stocks and how you use them in your  portfolio, it&rsquo;s actually possible to use small-caps to <em>reduce<\/em> your risk. <\/p>\n<p><strong>Kris Sayce<a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/u\/1\/102832084048340347143\/about\">+<\/a><br \/>\n  Publisher, <em>Money Morning<\/em><\/strong><strong><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/106516983215198267222\/about\" title=\"Join Money Morning on Google Plus -- and read about the things we can't always fit into our regular essays\"><u>Join Money Morning on Google+ <\/u><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The post <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20141009\/stocks-just-arent-worth-trouble.html\">What if Stocks Just Aren\u2019t Worth the Trouble?<\/a> appeared first on <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\">Stock Market News, Finance and Investments | Money Morning Australia<\/a>.<\/p>\n<div class=\"feedflare\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=h6Lh_BpPoLo:95goyQuqBL0:yIl2AUoC8zA\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?d=yIl2AUoC8zA\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=h6Lh_BpPoLo:95goyQuqBL0:V_sGLiPBpWU\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?i=h6Lh_BpPoLo:95goyQuqBL0:V_sGLiPBpWU\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=h6Lh_BpPoLo:95goyQuqBL0:gIN9vFwOqvQ\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?i=h6Lh_BpPoLo:95goyQuqBL0:gIN9vFwOqvQ\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/MoneyMorningAustralia\/~4\/h6Lh_BpPoLo\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\" \/><br \/>\nBy <a href=\"http:\/\/www.MoneyMorning.com.au\" target=\"_blank\"><u>MoneyMorning.com.au<\/u><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By MoneyMorning.com.au Overnight the US market rebounded, after a crushing blow the night before. The Dow Jones Industrial Average gained 274 points. That&rsquo;s 1.6%. The NASDAQ added 83.4 points. That&rsquo;s 1.9%. Today, the Aussie S&amp;P\/ASX 200 index should be in good shape after falling as much as 75 points shortly after yesterday&rsquo;s open. 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