{"id":60748,"date":"2014-09-23T01:51:25","date_gmt":"2014-09-23T05:51:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/countingpips.com\/?p=60748"},"modified":"2014-09-23T01:51:25","modified_gmt":"2014-09-23T05:51:25","slug":"when-the-stock-market-is-this-bad-it-must-be-time-to-buy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/2014\/09\/when-the-stock-market-is-this-bad-it-must-be-time-to-buy\/","title":{"rendered":"When the Stock Market is This Bad, it Must be Time to Buy\u2026"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"inves-3794186552\" class=\"inves-below-title-posts inves-entity-placement\"><div id =\"posts_date_custom\"><div align=\"left\">September 23, 2014<\/div><hr style=\"border: none; border-bottom: 3px solid black;\">\r\n<\/div><\/div><p>By <a href=\"http:\/\/www.MoneyMorning.com.au\" target=\"_blank\"><u>MoneyMorning.com.au<\/u><\/a><\/p>\n<p>There&rsquo;s no getting away from it.<\/p>\n<p>Yesterday was a tough day for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/stock-market\/stocks-and-bonds\" title=\"More on stocks and bonds\">stocks<\/a>. The scene in the US market  overnight wasn&rsquo;t much better.<\/p>\n<p>Some of our favourite stocks took a beating.<\/p>\n<p>It was across the board &mdash; bank stocks, resources stocks, tech stocks,  biotech stocks&hellip;even our favourite convenience food stock fell.<\/p>\n<p>For months we&rsquo;ve told you to ignore all the talk about a crashing <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/stock-market\" title=\"More on the stock market\"><strong>stock market<\/strong><\/a>. It was the right call, as markets didn&rsquo;t crash.<\/p><div id=\"inves-2579970217\" class=\"inves-in-content inves-entity-placement\"><hr style=\"border: 1px solid #ddd;\">\r\n<div id=\"inpost_ads_header\">\r\n<p style=\"font-size:10px; float:left; color:#666;\">Free Reports:<\/p><\/div>\r\n<div id=\"inpost_ads\"> \r\n<p style=\"font-size:15px; float:left;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/1ApBOV\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/investmacro.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/graph_techs_PD.png\" align=\"left\" width=\"80\"  height=\"55\"\/><\/a>\r\n\t     <a href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/1ApBOV\"><b><u>Get Our Free Metatrader 4 Indicators<\/u><\/b><\/a> - Put Our Free MetaTrader 4 Custom Indicators on your charts when you join our Weekly Newsletter<\/p><br><br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<p style=\"font-size:15px; float:left;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/f3RrHX\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/investmacro.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/cot_pie_80.png\" align=\"left\" width=\"80\"  height=\"55\"\/><\/a>\r\n\t    <a href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/f3RrHX\"><b><u>Get our Weekly Commitment of Traders Reports<\/u><\/b><\/a> - See where the biggest traders (Hedge Funds and Commercial Hedgers) are positioned in the futures markets on a weekly basis.<\/p><br><br>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<hr style=\"border: 1px solid #ddd;\">\r\n<br><\/div>\n<p>But now the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/stock-market\/australian-share-market-stocks\" title=\"More on the Australian share market\">Aussie S&amp;P\/ASX 200 index<\/a> is down 5.2% in three weeks.  Is this the beginning of something that&rsquo;s about to get much worse?<\/p>\n<p>Or is this when bargain hunters should start buying&hellip;?<\/p>\n<p>We&rsquo;ve had a consistent message for you this year &mdash; don&rsquo;t fall for the  fake crises that have plagued the market.<\/p>\n<p>This year more than any other has seen one fake crisis after another.<\/p>\n<p>Each time one of these crises appeared, the market fell. But then  within days the crisis was over (it was never a real crisis to begin with) and  <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailyreckoning.com.au\/category\/market\/stock-market\/\" title=\"More on stocks from The Daily Reckoning\" target=\"_blank\">stocks<\/a> began to rise again.<\/p>\n<p>It has been a familiar pattern. The question is whether this is a  repeat of the past or whether this &lsquo;crisis&rsquo; is something that should concern  you.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">\n<h2><strong>Iron  ore price continues to slide<\/strong><\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p>The big story at the moment is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/economy\/china-economy\" title=\"More on China\">China<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>But then again, since when hasn&rsquo;t China been the big story?<\/p>\n<p>It&rsquo;s the big story when the market booms. It&rsquo;s the big story when the  market stalls.<\/p>\n<p>Right now most investors feel that the market has stalled. They see  that in the price of iron ore, which has fallen below US$80.<\/p>\n<p>At this price it means trouble for high-cost <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/commodities\/metals-and-minerals\/iron-ore\" title=\"More on iron ore\">iron ore<\/a> producers. The  highest cost producers are China&rsquo;s domestic producers. Some of them have costs  well above US$100 per tonne.<\/p>\n<p>It doesn&rsquo;t take the mind of Dr Stephen Hawking to figure out that if  something costs US$120 to produce, but they can only sell it for US$80, they  won&rsquo;t make a profit.<\/p>\n<p>That&rsquo;s putting a lot of Chinese producers out of business.<\/p>\n<p>But it&rsquo;s also having another impact. As the price falls, producers try  to produce extra. That may seem counterintuitive. After all, wouldn&rsquo;t it make  sense to slow production to increase the price?<\/p>\n<p>Yes. That&rsquo;s what would happen in a cartel-controlled market. But in a  market with many suppliers, their aim is to sell as much of <em>their<\/em> product before their competitors  sell more product, which would drive the price down even further.<\/p>\n<p>You can see the impact of this on the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailyreckoning.com.au\/category\/resources\/metals-minerals\/iron-ore-1\/\" title=\"More on iron ore from The Daily Reckoning\" target=\"_blank\">iron ore price<\/a> in the chart  below:<\/p>\n<div align=\"center\"><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/portphillippublishing.com.au\/images\/MPR20140923a.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/portphillippublishing.com.au\/images\/MPR20140923a.jpg\" width=\"438\" height=\"221\" border=\"0\"><\/a><br \/>\n<em>Source: Financial Times<\/em><br \/>\n<em><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/portphillippublishing.com.au\/images\/MPR20140923a.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">Click to enlarge<\/a><\/em><\/div>\n<\/p>\n<p>Not surprisingly, it&rsquo;s hurting Aussie iron ore stocks.<\/p>\n<p>This year <strong>BHP Billiton [ASX:BHP]<\/strong> shares have fallen 8.2%, <strong>Rio Tinto  [ASX:RIO]<\/strong> is down 11.9%, and the company with the biggest exposure to the  falling iron ore price, <strong>Fortescue Metals  [ASX:FMG]<\/strong>, has slumped 38.5%.<\/p>\n<p>We don&rsquo;t mind admitting that as a pure, big-cap speculation, Fortescue  is one of our favourite plays. But it&rsquo;s certainly not one of the market&rsquo;s  favourite plays right now.<\/p>\n<p>But it&rsquo;s not just iron ore taking a belting. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/gold-and-silver\/gold\" title=\"More on gold\">Gold<\/a> has taken a big hit  too&hellip;<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">\n<h2><strong>No  one likes gold<\/strong><\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p>It&rsquo;s only three years since gold was above US$1,900 per ounce.<\/p>\n<p>The US Federal Reserve&rsquo;s money printing was in full flow. Some analysts  predicted gold would hit US$5,000 per ounce.<\/p>\n<p>It never happened. At the same time, the silver price was soaring too.  It climbed to US$50 per ounce. Some thought a supply shortage could see the  metal top US$100 or US$200 within five years.<\/p>\n<p>But neither <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailyreckoning.com.au\/category\/precious-metals-gold\/gold-silver\/\" title=\"More on gold and silver from The Daily Reckoning\" target=\"_blank\">gold nor silver<\/a> moved any higher.<\/p>\n<p>Today, investors seem to have given up on both metals. Gold is just  US$1,212 per ounce, and silver is just US$17.78.<\/p>\n<p>Even the most hard-nosed of gold and silver investors would agree that  in the short term things don&rsquo;t look good for the monetary metals.<\/p>\n<p>We openly admit that we&rsquo;ve called for a recovery in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/commodities\/resources-and-mining\/resources-and-mining-stocks\" title=\"More on resources and mining stocks\">resources stocks<\/a>  since early 2012. We couldn&rsquo;t have got it more wrong. But that won&rsquo;t stop us  backing the sector, or the stocks within the sector.<\/p>\n<p>That&rsquo;s why we sent resources analyst Jason Stevenson along to the  International Mining and Resources Conference here in Melbourne this week.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">\n<h2><strong>Big  opportunities in emerging markets resources<\/strong><\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p>Jason will be at the conference all week.<\/p>\n<p>He&rsquo;ll report back on anything of interest. He sent us his first  dispatch last evening. He didn&rsquo;t mention the mood, but if it&rsquo;s anything like  other resources conferences we&rsquo;ve been to during a market downturn, it won&rsquo;t be  the happiest place on Earth.<\/p>\n<p>Jason&rsquo;s biggest takeaway? Emerging markets continue to be an exciting  place to look for resources speculation, especially Central and South America.  According to Jason:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>&lsquo;<em>US$229 billion was spent on mining CAPEX in  Latin America during 2013, up 29% from 2012.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&lsquo;<em>Australia received US$116 billion, so Latin  America attracted more capital and investment than here.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&lsquo;<em>Peru has been the most preferred investment  destination for Chinese investment. China has invested over US$20 billion in  Peru over the past 10 years.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&lsquo;<em>In the next five years, there will be a  total of US$50 billion invested in Peru alone (this is global investment in  Peru).<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&lsquo;<em>Mexico is a nation with substantial mining  wealth, but only six companies on the ASX have mining leases there. This  compares to over 200 companies on the Toronto Stock Exchange. Mining has been  essential to the economy for years. Investors will pour US$6&ndash;7 billion into  Mexico this year.<\/em>&rsquo;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>The upshot is that, yes, the market is risky right now, especially for resources stocks. But the market is always risky. That&rsquo;s not new.<\/p>\n<p>If <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailyreckoning.com.au\/category\/global-economy\/asian-economy\/chinese-economy-1\/\" title=\"More on China's economy from The Daily Reckoning\" target=\"_blank\">China&rsquo;s economy<\/a> slows down more than most people expect, it could  continue to have a major impact on stocks. But as Jason notes, there is plenty  of opportunity.<\/p>\n<p>As we&rsquo;ve pointed out many times, since becoming the world&rsquo;s biggest  economy in 1890, the US has averaged a recession every six years.<\/p>\n<p>China will grow. It will likely become the world&rsquo;s biggest economy  within the next 10&ndash;15 years. But there will be bumps along the way.<\/p>\n<p>We&rsquo;ve seen scenarios play out like this before over the past six years.  The market takes a beating. Investors overdo it, and then the market rebounds.  If that action repeats this time, it will create another <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/best-investment-opportunities\" title=\"More investment opportunities\">great opportunity for investors<\/a> to reap the rewards.<\/p>\n<p>This is exactly why we&rsquo;ve long advised you to take a relatively  cautious approach with stocks. Buy stocks, but understand the risks, don&rsquo;t  invest more than you can afford to lose, and most of all&hellip;look for the opportunity  to buy on the cheap.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cheers,<br \/>\n  Kris<a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/u\/1\/102832084048340347143\/about\">+<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/106516983215198267222\/about\" title=\"Join Money Morning on Google Plus -- and read about the things we can't always fit into our regular essays\"><u>Join Money Morning on Google+ <\/u><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The post <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20140923\/stock-market-bad-must-time-buy.html\">When the Stock Market is This Bad, it Must be Time to Buy\u2026<\/a> appeared first on <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\">Stock Market News, Finance and Investments | Money Morning Australia<\/a>.<\/p>\n<div class=\"feedflare\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=CqHuaqdyQzk:mtDIGrT3uzg:yIl2AUoC8zA\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?d=yIl2AUoC8zA\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=CqHuaqdyQzk:mtDIGrT3uzg:V_sGLiPBpWU\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?i=CqHuaqdyQzk:mtDIGrT3uzg:V_sGLiPBpWU\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=CqHuaqdyQzk:mtDIGrT3uzg:gIN9vFwOqvQ\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?i=CqHuaqdyQzk:mtDIGrT3uzg:gIN9vFwOqvQ\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/MoneyMorningAustralia\/~4\/CqHuaqdyQzk\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\" \/><br \/>\nBy <a href=\"http:\/\/www.MoneyMorning.com.au\" target=\"_blank\"><u>MoneyMorning.com.au<\/u><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By MoneyMorning.com.au There&rsquo;s no getting away from it. Yesterday was a tough day for stocks. The scene in the US market overnight wasn&rsquo;t much better. Some of our favourite stocks took a beating. It was across the board &mdash; bank stocks, resources stocks, tech stocks, biotech stocks&hellip;even our favourite convenience food stock fell. 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