{"id":58580,"date":"2014-08-18T23:12:39","date_gmt":"2014-08-19T03:12:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/countingpips.com\/?p=58580"},"modified":"2014-08-18T23:12:39","modified_gmt":"2014-08-19T03:12:39","slug":"the-most-miserable-bull-stock-market-in-history","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/2014\/08\/the-most-miserable-bull-stock-market-in-history\/","title":{"rendered":"The Most Miserable Bull Stock Market in History"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"inves-3428164468\" class=\"inves-below-title-posts inves-entity-placement\"><div id =\"posts_date_custom\"><div align=\"left\">August 18, 2014<\/div><hr style=\"border: none; border-bottom: 3px solid black;\">\r\n<\/div><\/div><p>By <a href=\"http:\/\/www.MoneyMorning.com.au\" target=\"_blank\"><u>MoneyMorning.com.au<\/u><\/a><\/p>\n<p>What do you think of when you think of a bull market bubble?<\/p>\n<p>Euphoria. Excitement. Frenzy&hellip;buying stocks because everyone else is buying stocks.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20110212\/how-to-buy-and-sell-shares.html\" title=\"More on how to buy and sell shares\">Buying stocks<\/a> because stocks are going up.<\/p>\n<p>That&rsquo;s what we think of when we think about bull market bubbles.<\/p>\n<p>We don&rsquo;t think of high unemployment, high inflation, and generally miserable  consumers and investors who think the world is about to end.<\/p><div id=\"inves-1121471549\" class=\"inves-in-content inves-entity-placement\"><hr style=\"border: 1px solid #ddd;\">\r\n<div id=\"inpost_ads_header\">\r\n<p style=\"font-size:10px; float:left; color:#666;\">Free Reports:<\/p><\/div>\r\n<div id=\"inpost_ads\"> \r\n<p style=\"font-size:15px; float:left;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/1ApBOV\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/investmacro.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/graph_techs_PD.png\" align=\"left\" width=\"80\"  height=\"55\"\/><\/a>\r\n\t     <a href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/1ApBOV\"><b><u>Get Our Free Metatrader 4 Indicators<\/u><\/b><\/a> - Put Our Free MetaTrader 4 Custom Indicators on your charts when you join our Weekly Newsletter<\/p><br><br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<p style=\"font-size:15px; float:left;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/f3RrHX\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/investmacro.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/cot_pie_80.png\" align=\"left\" width=\"80\"  height=\"55\"\/><\/a>\r\n\t    <a href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/f3RrHX\"><b><u>Get our Weekly Commitment of Traders Reports<\/u><\/b><\/a> - See where the biggest traders (Hedge Funds and Commercial Hedgers) are positioned in the futures markets on a weekly basis.<\/p><br><br>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<hr style=\"border: 1px solid #ddd;\">\r\n<br><\/div>\n<p>And yet today&rsquo;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20110212\/how-to-buy-and-sell-shares.html\" title=\"More on the stock market\"><strong>stock market<\/strong><\/a> has more of the characteristics of the latter  than the former. If the market really is in a bubble (as many claim), this must  be the most miserable and depressing stock market bubble in the history of stock markets.<\/p>\n<p>That&rsquo;s why, for all the talk of a bubble in stocks, we just don&rsquo;t buy  it&hellip;<\/p>\n<p>Bloomberg yesterday reported on Australia&rsquo;s &lsquo;misery&rsquo;:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>&lsquo;<em>A deepening gloom across the largest  developed economy to escape recession during the global financial crisis is  shaping up as one of the toughest challenges yet for Reserve Bank of Australia  chief Glenn Stevens.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&lsquo;<em>Australia&rsquo;s misery index &mdash; the sum of  unemployment and inflation rates &mdash; is at 9.0, the highest since 2008, when the  collapse of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. froze credit markets around the world  and triggered the deepest recession in the U.S. since the Great Depression.<\/em>&rsquo;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>As with any statistic, you should take it with a grain of salt. But  don&rsquo;t ignore it completely.<\/p>\n<p>This all goes to support our view that interest rates aren&rsquo;t going  anywhere fast. Can you really imagine the Reserve Bank of Australia raising  interest rates as the unemployment rate goes up?<\/p>\n<p>It ain&rsquo;t gonna happen.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">\n<h2><strong>Advance  Australia the miserable<\/strong><\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p>The idea of interest rates and money was all part of the broader  discussion that took place during the World War D conference in Melbourne  earlier this year.<\/p>\n<p>The theme was money, war and survival in the digital age.<\/p>\n<p>Well, you can&rsquo;t get much more digital than money.<\/p>\n<p>When many people think of digital money they think of fancy new  innovations such as <a href=\"http:\/\/www.techinsider.com.au\/category\/digital-currencies\/\" title=\"More on Bitcoin from Tech Insider\" target=\"_blank\">Bitcoin<\/a> &mdash; this was a key feature of tech analyst Sam  Volkering&rsquo;s presentation at World War D.<\/p>\n<p>But digital money can be much simpler than that. Digital money includes  the debit and credit cards in your wallet.<\/p>\n<p>In fact, think about that money sitting in your bank account. 98% of it  is digital. Aussie banks only hold cash covering two cents for every one dollar  they hold in deposits.<\/p>\n<p>The rest is just digits on a computer. If anything bad happens to the  Aussie banking system&rsquo;s computers (such as cyber-terrorism &mdash; a theme covered at  World War D by counterterrorism expert John Robb), your entire life&rsquo;s savings  could go up in smoke.<\/p>\n<p>But most people don&rsquo;t think about that. They figure that everything  will be just fine.<\/p>\n<p>But how sure can you be that things will be fine? After all, with the  misery index at the highest level since 2008, doesn&rsquo;t it suggest that there&rsquo;s a  whole lot of trouble brewing for the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/economy\/australia-economy\" title=\"More on the Australian economy\">Australian economy<\/a>?<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">\n<h2><strong>Two  signs that this isn&rsquo;t a bubble<\/strong><\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p>It&rsquo;s easy to feel that way.<\/p>\n<p>And we don&rsquo;t blame you if, like many Aussies, you feel a bit glum about  things. It&rsquo;s no fun to either be unemployed or live in fear that you could lose  your job.<\/p>\n<p>And it&rsquo;s no fun to see inflation running at (officially) 3%&#8230;nibbling  away at your hard-earned savings.<\/p>\n<p>We get that. We get it that Aussies are worried about things.<\/p>\n<p>So, in that case, how on earth can seemingly sane people keep saying  that Aussie stocks are in a bubble and are set to crash?<\/p>\n<p>We&rsquo;re sorry, but it just doesn&rsquo;t stack up.<\/p>\n<p>At the top of this letter we mentioned &mdash; albeit flippantly &mdash; some of  the signs to look for in a bubbly market. <em><u>We  can tell you right now, one of those signs isn&rsquo;t depression and gloominess.<\/u><\/em><\/p>\n<p>We&rsquo;ll remind you of what we wrote yesterday. The Aussie market was up  4% this year, up until last Friday&rsquo;s close. After yesterday&rsquo;s up day, it&rsquo;s now  up 4.3% for the year.<\/p>\n<p>Over the past year it&rsquo;s up 9.2%. And over the past five years, it&rsquo;s up  25%.<\/p>\n<p>Those are all fine numbers. They&rsquo;re good numbers for investors. But  they are about as far away from bubble territory as you can get.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">\n<h2><strong>It&rsquo;s  time to leave the &lsquo;misery zone&rsquo;<\/strong><\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p>We&rsquo;re not sure what you look for when you invest, but we look for  value.<\/p>\n<p>We&rsquo;re always on the lookout for stocks and markets that represent good  value. They should be stocks and markets that have taken a bit of a beating.<\/p>\n<p>It doesn&rsquo;t mean the stock or market has to be at the bottom. We&rsquo;re fine  with getting into a stock or market that has begun to rebound. That&rsquo;s why we  enjoy <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/stock-market\/small-cap-stocks\" title=\"More on small-cap stocks\">small-cap stocks<\/a> so much.<\/p>\n<p>Regardless of whether it&rsquo;s a bull market or a bear market, there are  always opportunities for investors. It&rsquo;s just a case of putting in the extra  effort&hellip;locking a small-cap target in your &lsquo;sights&rsquo;, and then <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/pro1.portphillippublishing.com.au\/250357\/\" target=\"_blank\">pulling the  trigger to profit from the value<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The good news is that in today&rsquo;s market there is plenty of opportunity.  It&rsquo;s not just the misery index that&rsquo;s&hellip;well&hellip;miserable. Most investors seem to be  darn well miserable too.<\/p>\n<p>Despite the fact that the Aussie stock index has barely done better  than a cash deposit over the past five years, investors seem convinced that the  <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/financial-system\/banks-and-interest-rates\/reserve-bank-of-australia\" title=\"More on the Reserve Bank of Australia\">Reserve Bank of Australia<\/a> is about to increase interest rates and that stocks will fall.<\/p>\n<p>We can&rsquo;t explain this mentality. The only thing we can put it down to  is that most folks are still scared after the 2008 crash. Or maybe it&rsquo;s the  &lsquo;winter blues&rsquo;. Perhaps things will begin to change now that spring is around  the corner!<\/p>\n<p>That would be nice. The market is creeping back to the recent six-year  high. At some point Aussie investors will begin to appreciate the value available  in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailyreckoning.com.au\/category\/australian-share-market-1\/\" title=\"More on the Australian share market from The Daily Reckoning\" target=\"_blank\">Aussie stocks<\/a>. Once they do, it should be the catalyst to get this market  cracking on to the 7,000-point level and beyond.<\/p>\n<p>There&rsquo;s no telling when that will happen. But most likely it will be  when you least expect it. Perhaps <em>that<\/em> will be enough to drag the Aussie economy out of the &lsquo;misery zone&rsquo;.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cheers,<br \/>\n  Kris<a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/u\/1\/102832084048340347143\/about\">+<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>PS: <\/strong>If people have told you  it&rsquo;s too hard to make money in this market, don&rsquo;t believe them. A natural gas  stock we tipped two years ago has gained 1,951% over the past year. And small-cap  analyst Tim Dohrmann told his subscribers to lock in profits by selling half of  their position in this stock last week. To find out Tim&rsquo;s next potential triple  or quadruple-digit gainer, <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/pro1.portphillippublishing.com.au\/250357\/\" target=\"_blank\">click here&hellip;<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/106516983215198267222\/about\" title=\"Join Money Morning on Google Plus -- and read about the things we can't always fit into our regular essays\"><u>Join Money Morning on Google+ <\/u><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The post <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20140819\/miserable-bull-stock-market-history.html\">The Most Miserable Bull Stock Market in History<\/a> appeared first on <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\">Stock Market News, Finance and Investments | Money Morning Australia<\/a>.<\/p>\n<div class=\"feedflare\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=2WVLBS7o8Yw:TLOWPrpwKtY:yIl2AUoC8zA\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?d=yIl2AUoC8zA\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=2WVLBS7o8Yw:TLOWPrpwKtY:V_sGLiPBpWU\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?i=2WVLBS7o8Yw:TLOWPrpwKtY:V_sGLiPBpWU\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=2WVLBS7o8Yw:TLOWPrpwKtY:gIN9vFwOqvQ\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?i=2WVLBS7o8Yw:TLOWPrpwKtY:gIN9vFwOqvQ\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/MoneyMorningAustralia\/~4\/2WVLBS7o8Yw\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\" \/><br \/>\nBy <a href=\"http:\/\/www.MoneyMorning.com.au\" target=\"_blank\"><u>MoneyMorning.com.au<\/u><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By MoneyMorning.com.au What do you think of when you think of a bull market bubble? Euphoria. Excitement. Frenzy&hellip;buying stocks because everyone else is buying stocks. Buying stocks because stocks are going up. That&rsquo;s what we think of when we think about bull market bubbles. We don&rsquo;t think of high unemployment, high inflation, and generally miserable [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-58580","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","no-post-thumbnail"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/58580","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=58580"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/58580\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=58580"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=58580"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=58580"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}