{"id":50468,"date":"2014-05-04T21:40:08","date_gmt":"2014-05-05T01:40:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/countingpips.com\/forex-news\/?p=50468"},"modified":"2014-05-05T08:20:34","modified_gmt":"2014-05-05T12:20:34","slug":"why-the-australian-stock-market-can-keep-going-up","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/2014\/05\/04\/why-the-australian-stock-market-can-keep-going-up\/","title":{"rendered":"Why The Australian Stock Market Can Keep Going Up"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>By <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/10cDh0v\" target=\"_blank\"><u>MoneyMorning.com.au<\/u><\/a><\/p>\n<p>We&rsquo;ve given you this message for over two years.<\/p>\n<p>We most recently repeated the message at the <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1s8JhHV\" target=\"_blank\">World War D  conference<\/a> in  Melbourne.<\/p>\n<p>What was the message?<\/p>\n<p>It was that you should ignore the fake crises that keep  cropping up and instead focus on what&rsquo;s really important. In this case we&rsquo;re  talking about investing.<\/p>\n<p>And now, one of the world&rsquo;s most famous legendary investors  backs our view. He says the bull market won&rsquo;t end &lsquo;for a year or two&rsquo;.<\/p>\n<p>He&rsquo;s close, but this bull market could last another five  years at least&hellip;<\/p>\n<p>The legendary investor we&rsquo;re talking about is Jeremy  Grantham. In his latest newsletter Grantham writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>&lsquo;<em>The  bull market may come to an end any time, indeed as I write it may already have  happened. It could be derailed by disappointing global growth, profits sagging  as deficits are cut, a Russian miscalculation, or, perhaps most dangerous and  likely, an extreme Chinese slowdown.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>    &lsquo;<em>But  I believe it probably will not end for at least a year or two and probably not  before it reaches a level in excess of 2,250 on the S&amp;P 500.<\/em>&rsquo;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Today the S&amp;P 500 is at 1,881. If Grantham is right the  index would need to rise another 19.1% from this point to reach Grantham&rsquo;s  &lsquo;peak&rsquo;.<\/p>\n<p>If that happens, it would be good news for our forecast of  the <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/U9VeN4\" title=\"More on the Australian Share Market\"><strong>Australian Share index<\/strong><\/a> hitting 7,000 points early next year. That would be on its way  to taking out the 15,000 point mark over the next 3-5 years.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">\n<h2><strong>Three  reasons stocks can keep going up<\/strong><\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p>Of course, anything can happen.<\/p>\n<p>Just because we say the <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1a5IPFK\" title=\"More on the Australian stock market from The Daily Reckoning\" target=\"_blank\">Australian stock market<\/a> is going up doesn&rsquo;t mean it  will go up.<\/p>\n<p>And just because legendary investor Jeremy Grantham says the  market is likely to go up doesn&rsquo;t mean it will go up.<\/p>\n<p>Like Grantham, we know there&rsquo;s a whole bunch of trouble  facing the <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/VT7gfb\" title=\"More on the global economy\">world economy<\/a>. And we mean <em>real<\/em> trouble, not the fake kind of trouble the mainstream press bombards you with  each day.<\/p>\n<p>But that doesn&rsquo;t mean we&rsquo;re prepared to sit on the bench and  watch everything happen before us&hellip;waiting for the stock crash that could be  years from happening.<\/p>\n<p>For instance, despite a background of what many investors  perceive as bad news, stocks can still keep going up.<\/p>\n<p>There are two reasons for that. Either the news continues to  be better than investors expect, or investors have already taken the bad news  into account when making their investment decisions.<\/p>\n<p>After all, if you want a 6% income from an investment and  the only place to get that is stocks, then investors will hold their nose and  buy the stocks. Naturally, when the bad news arrives they may wish they hadn&rsquo;t &mdash;  depending on if they can get out of the market in time.<\/p>\n<p>There is a third reason. It&rsquo;s that investors just don&rsquo;t  care. They don&rsquo;t believe the bad news, they don&rsquo;t know about the bad news, or  given what has happened in recent years they assume the government will bail  out the market.<\/p>\n<p>We don&rsquo;t mind warning you, <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/XcVQUb\" title=\"More on how to buy and sell shares\">stock market investing<\/a> is risky.  But it&rsquo;s just as risky not to invest because of the risk of missing out on  spectacular gains.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">\n<h2><strong>&lsquo;Dismal&rsquo;  returns from stocks? Not so fast&hellip;<\/strong><\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p>This is really important to remember. Just because things  may look bad today, it doesn&rsquo;t mean stock prices have to crash today.<\/p>\n<p>Take this quote from <em>Barron&rsquo;s<\/em> by famed value investor Seth Klarman:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>&lsquo;<em>Our  view would be strongly that, on average, the returns from owning stocks are  going to be very dismal over the next five or 10 years&hellip;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>    &lsquo;<em>Right  on page 150 of the current issue of Barron&rsquo;s you find that the Dow Jones  trailing P\/E is now 29.1 times earnings. The dividend yield is 3%, and the  market to book is 225%. Those are not the kinds of numbers that seem to me to  be a launching pad for a new bull market. Nor the type of numbers that you  would usually see when you are in the middle of a biting recession. Even if you  looked at the more broad S&amp;P 500, the P\/E is approximately 20 and the  dividend yield is about the same, the price to book is actually worse &ndash; 245%.  So we cannot be optimistic about the returns from putting money into the stock  market in general here.<\/em>&rsquo;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Klarman&rsquo;s interview with <em>Barron&rsquo;s<\/em> was on 4th November 1991.<\/p>\n<p>Five years later in November 1996 the S&amp;P 500 and Dow  Jones Industrial Average had gained 79.8% and 99.9% respectively. 10 years  after the interview in November 2001 the indexes were still up 177.8% and  217.7% respectively.<\/p>\n<p>In short, <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1fJLXKe\" target=\"_blank\">bad news doesn&rsquo;t always mean bad news for  stocks<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">\n<h2><strong>Don&rsquo;t  call this rally over yet<\/strong><\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p>Oh, and if you think things are different today because the  main indices have <em>already<\/em> rallied,  then maybe you need to think again.<\/p>\n<p>At the time of Klarman&rsquo;s interview in November 1991 the US  indices had gained over 50% since the big October 1987 stock market crash.<\/p>\n<p>And while it&rsquo;s fair to say that the <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1kwNhkw\" title=\"More on stock markets from The Daily Reckoning\" target=\"_blank\">US S&amp;P 500<\/a> has  gained much more than that since the 2009 low (it&rsquo;s up 175%), the Aussie index  has &lsquo;only&rsquo; eked out a 73.5% gain.<\/p>\n<p>And even if you had invested in the S&amp;P 500 index in  1996 after it had made a 176% gain over the previous nine years, the index  eventually went on to record a 529% from the 1987 crash through to the 2000  peak.<\/p>\n<p>Could history repeat, just over a shorter timeframe?<\/p>\n<p>The disclaimer will tell you that past performance isn&rsquo;t  always a reliable indicator of future performance. But it&rsquo;s possible. It&rsquo;s certainly  not impossible.<\/p>\n<p>All we&rsquo;ll say is this: market crashes and rallies have a  habit of lasting shorter or longer than you ever expect. Right now most of the  so-called commentators and analysts claim this rally is over.<\/p>\n<p>Maybe it is. But we&rsquo;re prepared to bet that it isn&rsquo;t. That&rsquo;s  why we&rsquo;ve pegged the <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1fJLXKe\" target=\"_blank\">Aussie index to triple<\/a>&nbsp;from  this point over the next 3-5 years.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cheers,<br \/>\n  Kris<a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1992Ebo\">+<\/a><\/strong> <br \/>\n  <strong><em>From the Port Phillip Publishing Library<\/em><\/strong> <\/p>\n<p>Special Report: <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/SqBr06\" target=\"_blank\">Secure  and Protect Family Wealth for Generations<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/141OQNu\" title=\"Join Money Morning on Google Plus -- and read about the things we can't always fit into our regular essays\"><u>Join Money Morning on Google+ <\/u><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"feedflare\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1s8JhYj\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/Nk9u5P\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/SqBtF9\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1s8JhYl\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/SqBr0a\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1s8JfQq\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/SqBtFg\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\" \/><br \/>\nBy <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/10cDh0v\" target=\"_blank\"><u>MoneyMorning.com.au<\/u><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By MoneyMorning.com.au We&rsquo;ve given you this message for over two years. We most recently repeated the message at the World War D conference in Melbourne. What was the message? It was that you should ignore the fake crises that keep cropping up and instead focus on what&rsquo;s really important. In this case we&rsquo;re talking about &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/2014\/05\/04\/why-the-australian-stock-market-can-keep-going-up\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Why The Australian Stock Market Can Keep Going Up&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-50468","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/50468","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=50468"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/50468\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=50468"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=50468"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=50468"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}