{"id":49348,"date":"2014-04-02T22:31:51","date_gmt":"2014-04-03T02:31:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/countingpips.com\/forex-news\/?p=49348"},"modified":"2014-04-02T22:31:52","modified_gmt":"2014-04-03T02:31:52","slug":"satyajit-das-on-economic-growth-interest-rates-and-central-banks","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/2014\/04\/02\/satyajit-das-on-economic-growth-interest-rates-and-central-banks\/","title":{"rendered":"Satyajit Das on Economic Growth, Interest Rates and Central Banks"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>By <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/10cDh0v\" target=\"_blank\"><u>MoneyMorning.com.au<\/u><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Satyajit Das<\/strong>, a man gifted with a unique insight into  financial markets, was welcomed to the stage at the <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1hvQ1cM\" title=\"World War D conference\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>World War D <\/strong><\/a>conference on  Tuesday. Part of his introduction was a mention that he doesn&rsquo;t own a mobile  phone.<\/p>\n<p>Yes, that&rsquo;s right. Apparently it&rsquo;s news if someone doesn&rsquo;t own  a mobile phone.<\/p>\n<p>The crowd politely laughed. Das wasn&rsquo;t here to talk about  <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/14mHOzJ\" title=\"More on technology and innovation\">technology<\/a>, so it didn&rsquo;t matter that he doesn&rsquo;t own a mobile phone.<\/p>\n<p>What did matter to the audience was Das&rsquo;s take on the  current mess we call a financial system&hellip;<\/p>\n<p>Now Das is an entertaining speaker. His turn of phrase and  emphasis had the masses laughing almost every minute. But underneath every line  to elicit a giggle or snort was a serious message.<\/p>\n<p>As he stood in front of the attendees, he opened with <em>&lsquo;Problems, what problems? We&rsquo;re rich. Every  minute of every day the Dow makes a new high.&rsquo;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>He then bombarded the audience with truly frightening  statistics to demonstrate the absurdity of this statement.<\/p>\n<p>Like the fact that Japan&rsquo;s market is almost 50% below its  all-time highs, and <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/U9VeN4\" title=\"More on the Australian share market\">Australia&#8217;s share market<\/a> is about 20% below its all times high. <em>&lsquo;But,&rsquo;<\/em> he paused, <em>&lsquo;You are rich.&rsquo;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Alarming the crowd further were the inflation-adjusted  figures for <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1gHGra5\" title=\"More on superannuation from The Daily Reckoning\" target=\"_blank\">superannuation<\/a> over the period of 2000&ndash;2013.&nbsp; His calculations show we&rsquo;re only up 3.51% on  average.<em> &lsquo;But again, you ARE rich,&rsquo;<\/em> Das  told the room.<\/p>\n<p>If anyone knows how to keep a crowd hanging, it&rsquo;s Das. From  here, no one dared shift in their seat&hellip;just in case they missed some valuable  information from his rapid-fire presentation.<\/p>\n<p>Americans on food stamps have risen to 47 million today,  from 27 million in October 2007. These are essential, he argued, to keep people  from rioting in the streets. He may have been joking. But that one line  demonstrates two things: The rise in poverty in a &lsquo;rich&rsquo; nation and the increasing  dependency on the <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1gWrcKL\" title=\"More on welfare state from The Pursuit of Happiness\" target=\"_blank\">government to provide.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Moving on, Das wanted to <em>&lsquo;&hellip;look  at the real economy, where they don&rsquo;t shuffle papers around.&rsquo;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>But looking at the real economy paints a bleak picture, Das  noted.<\/p>\n<p>America needs US$1.6 trillion to create US$300 billion  dollars of &lsquo;growth&rsquo; in the economy. What&rsquo;s more, debt levels haven&rsquo;t been this  high since the Napoleonic Wars.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1bsT6Kr\" title=\"More on emerging markets from The Daily Reckoning\" target=\"_blank\">Emerging markets<\/a>, America and the other countries considered  &lsquo;rich&rsquo;, financialised their economies. They spend more time shuffling assets  and <em>financial<\/em> engineering rather than  any <em>real<\/em> engineering.<\/p>\n<p>Increases in <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/SEo0ap\" title=\"More on debt\">debt levels<\/a>, financial imbalances and  entitlement culture were the causes of the crisis Das tells us.<\/p>\n<p><em>&lsquo;The real solution is  to reduce debt, reverse the imbalances, decrease the financialisation of the  economy and bring about major behavioural changes,&rsquo;<\/em> says Das.<\/p>\n<p><em>&lsquo;But rather than deal  with the fundamental issues, policy makers substituted public spending,  financed by government debt or central banks, to boost demand.&rsquo;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>What no politician or central banker will ever tell you,  expresses Das, is that we need a 30% drop in gross domestic product.<\/p>\n<p>The historically <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1h2i7k7\" title=\"More on interest rates from The Daily Reckoning\" target=\"_blank\">low interest rates<\/a> also got a mention from  Das on Tuesday. This, he reasons, continues to create imbalances in the economy.  However central banks have to keep fiddling with the interest rate. Simply  because no one in the Western world has sustainable debt. <\/p>\n<p><em>&lsquo;As an example&rsquo;<\/em> Das explains, <em>&lsquo;a 1% rise in rates would  increase the debt servicing costs to the US government by around $170 billion.  A rise of 1% in G7 interest rates increases the interest expense of the G7  countries by around US$1.4 trillion.&rsquo;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Without economic growth, you can&rsquo;t pay back your debt.  However, there is no economic growth. So interest rates won&rsquo;t go any higher for  now.<\/p>\n<p>He points out when then Federal Reserve Chairman Ben  Bernanke announced QE3 &mdash; quantitative easing &mdash; Bernanke said himself that it  would not significantly increase economic activity directly. <\/p>\n<p>This leads to the relevance, and perhaps stupidity, of  central banks. <\/p>\n<p>Forward guidance, he declared is an abused term in the  central bankers handbook of doublespeak. <\/p>\n<p><em>&lsquo;Nobody actually  believes central banks anymore,&rsquo; <\/em>he declared.<\/p>\n<p>He likens their language to something similar to a Monty  Python skit.<\/p>\n<p>One European Central Bank member said last year, that &lsquo;[forward  guidance is] <em>a change in communication  but not in monetary policy strategy.<\/em>&rsquo; <\/p>\n<p>Or this, from the current <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/11lq6zP\" title=\"More on the US Federal Reserve\">US Federal Reserve <\/a>chairwoman, Janet Yellen. <em>&lsquo;If I thought that was a situation we will  likely encounter in the next several years we would probably have revised our forward  guidance in a different way. We revised it as we did, eliminating that language  because it didn&rsquo;t seem at all likely.&rsquo;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>However, Das said, nothing ever lives up to the comments  from Alan Greenspan (former Fed Chairman): <em>&lsquo;I  know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you  realise that what you heard is not what I meant.&rsquo;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Later, Greenspan added: <em>&lsquo;If  I have made myself clear then you have misunderstood me.&rsquo; <\/em><\/p>\n<p>Finally, when the crowd stopped laughing, Das reminded  everyone that, <em>&lsquo;They get paid to do this.&rsquo;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>After the sledging on <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/11lq6zK\" title=\"More on the central banks\">central bankers<\/a> was over, he moved on to  how we get out of this mess.<\/p>\n<p>And right now, there is no &lsquo;stage left&rsquo;, according to Das.<\/p>\n<p>Higher interest rates will crash the economy. And the actual  limit of money printing isn&rsquo;t known yet. Das wondered aloud just how much more  the world can handle.<\/p>\n<p>Policy incompetence, &lsquo;<em>pointy  heads in financial markets<\/em>&rsquo; and plenty of people talking but not actually  saying anything aren&rsquo;t going to dig the world out of the ongoing financial  calamity.<\/p>\n<p>From here, Das reckons there&rsquo;s no path to normalisation.  Perhaps secular stagnation or slow global bankruptcy.<\/p>\n<p>More likely, he thinks we&rsquo;re looking at a life of financial  repression from governments.<em> &lsquo;After all,  isn&rsquo;t the art of taxation to pluck the goose with the least amount of hissing?&rsquo;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>With that, he offered the crowd a tip or two on where to  stick their money (hint: it&rsquo;s not shares). And then told the attendees <em>&lsquo;there&rsquo;s no way out.&rsquo;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Shae Smith<a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1bTbKha\">+<\/a><br \/>\n  Contributing Editor, <em>Money Morning<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>PS:<\/strong> We captured  Das&rsquo;s full 90 minute presentation on tape. You can find out how to watch it,  plus more than 15 hours-worth of other intriguing material and financial  insight from the conference, <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1hCrAww\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>.\n<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/141OQNu\" title=\"Join Money Morning on Google Plus -- and read about the things we can't always fit into our regular essays\"><u>Join Money Morning on Google+ <\/u><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"feedflare\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1hCrAwA\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/Nk9u5P\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1pQNEGo\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1hCrAwE\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1hCrAwG\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1hCrAwI\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1hCrAwK\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\" \/><br \/>\nBy <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/10cDh0v\" target=\"_blank\"><u>MoneyMorning.com.au<\/u><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By MoneyMorning.com.au Satyajit Das, a man gifted with a unique insight into financial markets, was welcomed to the stage at the World War D conference on Tuesday. Part of his introduction was a mention that he doesn&rsquo;t own a mobile phone. Yes, that&rsquo;s right. Apparently it&rsquo;s news if someone doesn&rsquo;t own a mobile phone. The &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/2014\/04\/02\/satyajit-das-on-economic-growth-interest-rates-and-central-banks\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Satyajit Das on Economic Growth, Interest Rates and Central Banks&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-49348","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/49348","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=49348"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/49348\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=49348"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=49348"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=49348"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}