{"id":49160,"date":"2014-03-31T00:19:27","date_gmt":"2014-03-31T04:19:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/countingpips.com\/forex-news\/?p=49160"},"modified":"2014-03-31T00:19:27","modified_gmt":"2014-03-31T04:19:27","slug":"dr-marc-faber-the-terminal-phase-of-a-credit-and-asset-bubble","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/2014\/03\/31\/dr-marc-faber-the-terminal-phase-of-a-credit-and-asset-bubble\/","title":{"rendered":"Dr Marc Faber: The Terminal Phase of a Credit and Asset Bubble"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>By <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/10cDh0v\" target=\"_blank\"><u>MoneyMorning.com.au<\/u><\/a><\/p>\n<p>In the gilded ballroom of Hyatt&#8217;s Savoy ballroom, <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1k6vgpX\" title=\"World War D\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>World War D<\/strong><\/a>&#8216;s  opening speaker <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1gL5TeV\" title=\"Dr Marc Faber speaking at World War D\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Dr Mark Faber<\/strong><\/a> delivered a blunt message: the old world order is  over. <\/p>\n<p>&#8216;<em>The US reached a peak in  prosperity and influence in the world in the 1950s or 1960s<\/em>,&#8217; said Faber.  But since the 70s the superpower has been locked into a cycle of bubbles, busts  and growing debt. <\/p>\n<p>Debt, and the way it has manipulated the <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/VT7gfb\" title=\"More on the global economy\">global economy<\/a>, was the  main theme of Faber&#8217;s address. <\/p>\n<p>&#8216;<em>There are some people who  claim to be economists who will tell you debts do not matter<\/em>,&#8217; Faber told  the packed ballroom. <\/p>\n<p>But the real story is different&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>\n  Faber explained the flaw at the heart of expansionary monetary  policy (such as QE). <em>&#8216;When you drop dollar bills into the economy&#8230;it won&#8217;t lift  all prices and assets equally at the same time,&#8217;<\/em> he said. In the 60s and 70s,  extra money flowing through the economy inflated wages; in the early 2000s,  money printing inflated <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1lXhAj3\" title=\"More on commodities from the Daily Reckoning\" target=\"_blank\">commodities.<\/a> But, Faber points out, this price and  asset growth is never equal.<\/p>\n<p>In other words, money printing creates more bubbles. Some assets  go up, they overshoot, collapse and cause significant damage which  necessitates, in the view of the <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/11lq6zP\" title=\"More on the US Federal Reserve\">US Federal Reserve<\/a>, more money printing. It is a vicious  cycle we&#8217;ve seen since the 70s: each time there was an economic problem, the  Fed printed money and created more distortions.<\/p>\n<p>Bernanke&#8217;s tenure saw this trend continue, and when it came to  assessing the former Fed chairman, Faber didn&#8217;t mince his words.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;&#8217;<em>He&#8217;s been a disaster,<\/em>&#8216; Faber said drily. Faber pointed out that not  only did Bernanke not notice the subprime disaster, he actually helped create  it. &#8216;<em>Under his tenure at the Federal Reserve and under his intellectual influence when working for Mr Greenspan they  created the gigantic housing bubble,<\/em>&#8216; he said.<\/p>\n<p>At the heart of this expansion in debt, and cycle of bubbles and  busts is the reliance of the <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1156hs3\" title=\"More on the US economy\">US economy<\/a> on consumption. For the last century,  policy makers have encouraged consumption on all levels of society including  government, and discouraged savings.<\/p>\n<p>But according to Faber, consumption doesn&#8217;t create a strong  economy. &#8216;<em>Wealth doesn&#8217;t come from  consumerism, it comes from capital spending,<\/em>&#8216; he said.<\/p>\n<p>And the problem for the US economy is that while debt has continued to  rise, capital investment hasn&#8217;t. In fact, it&#8217;s been falling sharply for a long  time.<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;<em>If we have growing debts,  there&#8217;s a difference in quality of those debts,<\/em>&#8216; he said.&nbsp; Japan, South Korea and Taiwan used their  debts to invest in factories, plants&#8230;investments that generated wealth. According  to Faber however, the US has just acquired debt to fuel consumption. &#8216;<em>Where&#8217;s the future income?<\/em>&#8216; he asked.<\/p>\n<p>Faber used this as an opportunity to strike a note of caution for  Australia, warning the room that one day Australia&#8217;s indebted <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/VJwig7\" title=\"More on Australian housing\">housing sector<\/a> won&#8217;t  be able to borrow much more. It will then enter a period of contraction or very  slow growth.<\/p>\n<p>That was his warning to Australia: then came the opportunity.<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;<em>We live in a new word. We  live in a world where the balance of power has shifted to emerging countries<\/em>,&#8217;  said Faber.<\/p>\n<p>He was of course, talking about China. While China&#8217;s growth story  is well known, Faber gave the audience an important geopolitical sub story.<\/p>\n<p>China&#8217;s massive growth triggered massive <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/Uix8zX\" title=\"More on commodities\">commodity export<\/a> booms in  emerging economies. China&#8217;s real success was exporting the products it produced  back to emerging economies. This has created a significant shift in the global  economy: exports from China to emerging countries are higher than exports to  the US or Europe.<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;This is the new world, where the old world is largely bypassed,&#8217;  said Faber.&nbsp; While most of the media  debates whether the US will grow, Faber argues it will have no impact on the  world, as China has a much greater influence now than the US.<\/p>\n<p>Faber is no bull on China however, and warned he would be very  careful about investing there. Faber sees conditions at the present time as  much worse than many people realise. There are also geopolitical concerns that  are often left unexamined.<\/p>\n<p>Take oil. Oil consumption in China &#8211; most of which comes from the  Middle East &#8211; will rise. &#8216;<em>The Middle East  in my opinion will go up in flames at some point, that will be an unpleasant  event,<\/em>&#8216; predicted Faber in his typically apocalyptic but still understated  way.<\/p>\n<p>For Australia, he sees opportunities in the huge numbers of  Chinese tourists travelling abroad, but he believes Australia has made a huge  mistake by tolerating US bases on its continent. &#8216;<em>China will not sit by and let themselves be bossed around by the US,<\/em>&#8216;  he said.<\/p>\n<p>His final message reiterated the failure of the US Federal Reserve. Corporate  profits had been boosted by artificially low interest rates; wealth inequality  is on the rise; and to compound it all, he says the Fed won&#8217;t raise interest rates anytime soon.<\/p>\n<p>Punctuated by flashes of humour and dire warnings, it was a sober  message that the attentive audience lapped up.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Callum  Denness<br \/>\n  Roving Reporter for <em>Money Morning  Australia<\/em> at World War D<\/strong> <\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/141OQNu\" title=\"Join Money Morning on Google Plus -- and read about the things we can't always fit into our regular essays\"><u>Join Money Morning on Google+ <\/u><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"feedflare\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1iQnZLe\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/Nk9u5P\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1iQo1CO\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1hq4Zn2\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1iQo1CQ\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1hq4Zn4\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1iQo1CS\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\" \/><br \/>\nBy <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/10cDh0v\" target=\"_blank\"><u>MoneyMorning.com.au<\/u><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By MoneyMorning.com.au In the gilded ballroom of Hyatt&#8217;s Savoy ballroom, World War D&#8216;s opening speaker Dr Mark Faber delivered a blunt message: the old world order is over. &#8216;The US reached a peak in prosperity and influence in the world in the 1950s or 1960s,&#8217; said Faber. But since the 70s the superpower has been &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/2014\/03\/31\/dr-marc-faber-the-terminal-phase-of-a-credit-and-asset-bubble\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Dr Marc Faber: The Terminal Phase of a Credit and Asset Bubble&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-49160","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/49160","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=49160"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/49160\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=49160"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=49160"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=49160"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}