{"id":46525,"date":"2014-01-21T01:04:31","date_gmt":"2014-01-21T06:04:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/countingpips.com\/forex-news\/?p=46525"},"modified":"2014-01-21T01:04:31","modified_gmt":"2014-01-21T06:04:31","slug":"why-its-too-soon-to-burst-the-stock-price-bubble","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/2014\/01\/21\/why-its-too-soon-to-burst-the-stock-price-bubble\/","title":{"rendered":"Why It\u2019s Too Soon to Burst the Stock Price Bubble"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>By <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/10cDh0v\" target=\"_blank\"><u>MoneyMorning.com.au<\/u><\/a><\/p>\n<p>What was  yesterday&#8217;s big news? China&#8217;s economic growth.<\/p>\n<p>The market  expected bad news.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s why the  S&amp;P\/ASX 200 index fell as much as 43 points during the day.<\/p>\n<p>So, what  happened?<\/p>\n<p>It turns out  the news was <em>better<\/em> than the market  had expected.<\/p>\n<p>After that came  out the market turned course and went up. It ended the day down just 10.9  points.<\/p>\n<p>So much for the  idea that the market is living in cloud cuckoo land with too-high expectations.  In fact, is it possible that investors are being unduly pessimistic and  undervaluing stocks?\n<\/p>\n<p>As always, you  can never know for certain if <strong>stocks<\/strong> are undervalued, fairly valued or  overvalued until after the event.<\/p>\n<p>What seems  expensive today may turn out to be cheap tomorrow if <strong>stock prices<\/strong> continue to  rise and if company earnings follow suit.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s a key  point. We&#8217;ll come back to that in a moment.<\/p>\n<p>You&#8217;ve  doubtless heard talk everywhere claiming that <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/V6n2lL\" title=\"more on stocks\">stocks<\/a> are currently in a bubble.  But what&#8217;s the rationale for that reasoning? That stock prices in the US have  gained 170% since the 2009 low.<\/p>\n<p>Likewise, many  say <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/U9VeN4\" title=\"more on the Australian stockmarket\">Australian stocks<\/a> are overvalued because the index is up 68% since the 2009  low. Let&#8217;s put things in perspective; as far as stocks are concerned there&#8217;s no  way that anyone can reasonably call the current gains a bubble.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<h2>Not All Price Rises are  Bubbles<\/h2>\n<p><p>Look, we&#8217;re not  saying that stocks aren&#8217;t heading towards bubble territory. If you&#8217;ve read <em>Money Morning<\/em> at any point over the past  five years you&#8217;ll know we&#8217;ve long warned about this gradually building bubble  caused by <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/10knjYn\" title=\"more on interest rates\">low interest rates<\/a> and money printing.<\/p>\n<p>But it&#8217;s not  there yet.<\/p>\n<p>If you&#8217;re  looking for a real bubble, look at the dot-com bubble. The NASDAQ index climbed  1,071% from March 1990 to March 2000. If Mick Dundee were comparing the two  he&#8217;d probably say, &#8216;<em>That&#8217;s not a bubble. THAT&#8217;S  a bubble<\/em>.&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>We will point  out one thing. Just because stocks go up &#8211; sometimes a lot &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t  necessarily mean it&#8217;s a price bubble. It&#8217;s possible for prices to rise and for  it to be entirely justified.<\/p>\n<p><em><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1eOSBt0\" target=\"_blank\">Diggers and Drillers<\/a><\/em> resource analyst Jason Stevenson sent your editor a note in  response to yesterday&#8217;s <em>Money Morning<\/em>.  It was a quote in the <em>Wall Street Journal<\/em> from Jason Hsu, chief investment officer at Research Affiliates:<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;<em>When  everyone starts to use &ldquo;bubble&rdquo; anytime prices go up, it&#8217;s probably not one.  The time to worry is when people are using all kinds of rationalizations as to  why it&#8217;s not a bubble.<\/em>&#8216;<\/p>\n<p>Hmmm. Does that  mean it <em>is<\/em> a bubble because we&#8217;re  claiming it <em>isn&#8217;t<\/em> yet the top of the  bubble? Are we using &#8216;<em>all kinds of  rationalizations<\/em>&#8216; to justify our position?<\/p>\n<p>Well, that&#8217;s up  to you to decide. We just give you the financial advice to buy stocks to take  advantage of a rising <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/Vo6F57\" title=\"more on the stock market\">stock market<\/a>. As a self-directed investor it&#8217;s then up to you to  decide if our argument makes sense&#8230;or whether we&#8217;re talking junk.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<h2>Current Valuations &#8216;Cheap&#8217;  Compared to Bubble Valuations<\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p>Of course, we  should make something else clear. Just because stock prices haven&#8217;t yet reached  bubble proportions, doesn&#8217;t mean prices can&#8217;t fall.<\/p>\n<p>Stocks rise and  fall all the time. The issue is whether the price rise far exceeds anything  that could possibly be justified by future earnings growth.<\/p>\n<p>Even if stock valuations are high relative  to historical levels, you have to decide whether they are so high that it&#8217;s  fair to say the market is at the peak of a bubble.<\/p>\n<p>The following  chart details the average price to earnings (PE) ratio of the S&amp;P 500 from  1871 to the present day:<\/p>\n<div align=\"center\"><a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1eOSBJe\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1eOSBJe\" width=\"416\" height=\"189\" border=\"0\" alt=\"The following  chart details the average price to earnings (PE) ratio of the S&amp;P 500 from  1871 to the present day\"><\/a><br \/>\n<strong>Source: www.multpl.com<\/strong><br \/>\n<em><a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1eOSBJe\" target=\"_blank\">Click to enlarge<\/a><\/em><\/div>\n<p>(Note: The data  prior to 1957 is estimated data. The S&amp;P 500 didn&#8217;t exist until 1957.)<\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;ll agree that  the PE ratio is towards the top of the average range. But as you can see, for a  comparison to the dot-com boom and sub-prime boom, it&#8217;s plain to see current  valuations are well below those bubble valuations.<\/p>\n<p>Again, we&#8217;re  not saying stock prices can&#8217;t or won&#8217;t fall. But the current market appears to  be far from bubble territory&#8230;for now.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<h2>It All Depends on Investor  Confidence<\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p>Finally, we&#8217;ll  make one last point. It&#8217;s something we referred to at the top of this letter.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s the idea  that what may look like an expensive stock valuation today may not look so  expensive a year or two from now. In fact, by then today&#8217;s stock prices could look  cheap.<\/p>\n<p>That can happen  in one of two ways. Either companies announce better-than-expected profits, or  investors become more positive about future company profits.<\/p>\n<p>Look at the  chart of PE ratios again. You can see how that&#8217;s played out in the past. If investors  gain more confidence they&#8217;ll pay more for a stock in the belief that profits  and prices will go higher.<\/p>\n<p>Look, let&#8217;s get  something straight. The whole period from 2009 is part of a major asset bubble.  We get that, and we&#8217;ve openly warned you about it.<\/p>\n<p>But just  because we or others are supposedly smart enough to spot a bubble, doesn&#8217;t mean  asset prices won&#8217;t go even higher. Price bubbles through history have a funny  habit of going much further than most expect.<\/p>\n<p>And right now,  while the US market in particular may have clocked up good returns since 2009, we  don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s anywhere near reaching a bursting point.<\/p>\n<p>In fact, it may  still be many years before the bubble reaches that point.  In the meantime, it&#8217;s important you don&#8217;t miss out on the <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1eOSzRS\" target=\"_blank\">potential  gains<\/a> if this market continues to rise.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cheers,<br \/>\n  Kris<\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1992Ebo\">+<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"feedflare\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1eOSzRU\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/Nk9u5P\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1eOSA88\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1eOSBJm\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1eOSA8a\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1fUr1zC\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/1eOSBJo\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\" \/><br \/>\nBy <a href=\"http:\/\/ift.tt\/10cDh0v\" target=\"_blank\"><u>MoneyMorning.com.au<\/u><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By MoneyMorning.com.au What was yesterday&#8217;s big news? China&#8217;s economic growth. The market expected bad news. That&#8217;s why the S&amp;P\/ASX 200 index fell as much as 43 points during the day. So, what happened? It turns out the news was better than the market had expected. After that came out the market turned course and went &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/2014\/01\/21\/why-its-too-soon-to-burst-the-stock-price-bubble\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Why It\u2019s Too Soon to Burst the Stock Price Bubble&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-46525","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/46525","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=46525"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/46525\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=46525"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=46525"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=46525"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}