{"id":44824,"date":"2013-12-01T20:48:39","date_gmt":"2013-12-02T01:48:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/countingpips.com\/forex-news\/?p=44824"},"modified":"2013-12-01T20:48:39","modified_gmt":"2013-12-02T01:48:39","slug":"property-investors-can-only-dream-of-disappointing-returns-like-this","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/2013\/12\/01\/property-investors-can-only-dream-of-disappointing-returns-like-this\/","title":{"rendered":"Property Investors Can Only Dream of \u2018Disappointing\u2019 Returns Like This"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>By <a href=\"http:\/\/www.MoneyMorning.com.au\" target=\"_blank\"><u>MoneyMorning.com.au<\/u><\/a><\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s the final stretch.<\/p>\n<p>The market is down to the last 20 trading days of the year.<\/p>\n<p>During that time, if the market is to get to our 6,000 point  year-end target it will need to gain 12.8%.<\/p>\n<p>It seems impossible. And maybe it is.<\/p>\n<p>Yet, even if it does nothing from here, this market continues to  prove there&#8217;s no better wealth-building investment than <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/stock-market\/stocks-and-bonds\" title=\"more on stocks\">stocks<\/a>&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s easy to look at stocks at the moment and take a negative  view.<\/p>\n<p>After all, since hitting a five-year high in October stocks have  pretty much moved in one direction.<\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;ve heard the same old tired stories about stocks being a dud  investment. That&#8217;s especially so when the front pages tell wonderful stories  about the<a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/property-market\" title=\"more on the housing market\"> housing market<\/a> rebound&#8230;how house prices are so high that first home  buyers just can&#8217;t afford to get into the market.<\/p>\n<p>Oh, what short memories. We&#8217;ll just remind those folks that as  great as the housing market rebound may be, there wouldn&#8217;t be a single <strong>property investor<\/strong> who has made a net gain of 14.4% this year.<\/p>\n<p>By contrast there are thousands, perhaps even millions of stock investors who have done just that. Some have done even better.<\/p>\n<h2>Don&#8217;t Confuse Price With Value<\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s funny. Property investors always rush to say that investing  in<strong> property<\/strong> is a great way to make money. And yet it seems to us that almost every day we read a story that says housing is unaffordable&#8230;that it&#8217;s too  expensive for folks to get into the market.<\/p>\n<p>Maybe we need to go back to investing school, but surely a key  definition of a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/best-investment-opportunities\" title=\"best investment opportunities \">good investment<\/a> is that you can actually <em>buy<\/em> the investment.<\/p>\n<p>If it&#8217;s so expensive that you can&#8217;t afford to buy it, well, that&#8217;s  not much of an investment at all.<\/p>\n<p>Compare that to the stock market. There isn&#8217;t a single stock on the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/stock-market\/australian-share-market-stocks\" title=\"more on the Australian market \">Australian market<\/a> that someone with as little as $500 couldn&#8217;t buy.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, there&#8217;s a difference between price and value. A stock  may have a price of $10 per share but that doesn&#8217;t necessarily make it good  value compared to a $20 stock.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s where you have to put in the analysis to find out which  stock is better value. You need to dig around a company&#8217;s balance sheets and  get inside the business.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s the task we&#8217;ve set for <em>Diggers  and Drillers<\/em> resource analyst Jason Stevenson. We&#8217;ve asked him to analyse &#8211;  among others &#8211; BHP Billiton [ASX: BHP] and Rio Tinto [ASX: RIO] to find out <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/pro1.portphillippublishing.com.au\/167844\/\">which  is better value<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>These two stocks are a great example of the need to look at more  than price. BHP is $37 per share, while Rio is $66 per share. But that doesn&#8217;t  mean BHP is the better value stock.<\/p>\n<p>Naturally, there&#8217;s a chance that neither are good value at their  current price. If so we&#8217;ll suggest investors look elsewhere. We&#8217;ll showcase  Jason&#8217;s analysis in the December issue of <em><a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/pro1.portphillippublishing.com.au\/167844\/\">Diggers  and Drillers<\/a><\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Although we have to be honest and say that even if BHP and Rio are  overvalued at the current price, odds are investors will still do pretty well  out of each stock over the next 10 years. Even so, who wouldn&#8217;t rather buy a  great stock at a great price rather than a high price?<\/p>\n<h2>Buying and Selling Costs are Chicken Feed<\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s what makes the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/stock-market\" title=\"more on the stock market \">stock market <\/a>so great, despite what the  detractors say.<\/p>\n<p>Unlike property investing, most stock investors don&#8217;t need to  borrow money to invest. They can pay with straight cash. That&#8217;s how stock  investors can achieve such high net investing returns (not including the tax  liability of course).<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s not always true for property investors. In fact, Australian  Taxation Office figures show that most property investors lose money each year.  Interest costs, maintenance costs and property management fees chew up any  gains they make from renting out a property.<\/p>\n<p>And that&#8217;s not even taking into account the buying and selling  costs associated with <strong>property investing<\/strong>, which run into the tens of thousands  of dollars.<\/p>\n<p>By contrast, even if you bought $100,000-worth of stock your  transactions fees wouldn&#8217;t add up to more than $100. For most investors who buy  anything from $500 to $25,000-worth of stock they&#8217;ll pay anything up to $25.<\/p>\n<p>In short, the cost to<a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20110212\/how-to-buy-and-sell-shares.html\" title=\"how to buy and sell shares \"> buy and sell shares<\/a> is chicken feed. And  that&#8217;s important, because the more money you can plough into an actual  investment rather than paying the government or agent, the more money for you  in retirement.<\/p>\n<h2>We&#8217;ll Take This &#8216;Small&#8217; Return Any Time<\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p>So sure, it has been a disappointing six weeks for stocks, and  there&#8217;s a good chance the market won&#8217;t hit our short term target of 6,000  points.<\/p>\n<p>But does that mean stocks are a bad investment and that you should  get the heck out of them?<\/p>\n<p>No.<\/p>\n<p>Even with the rebounding <strong>housing market<\/strong> and low interest rates, if  you factor in the fees and costs to buy and hold property, most housing  investors are well underwater for the year.<\/p>\n<p>But not stock investors. The S&amp;P\/ASX 200 may only have gained  14.4% so far compared to a 65% gain for Japan&#8217;s Nikkei225 index, but you know  what, that&#8217;s good enough for us.<\/p>\n<p>If we could squeeze that kind of gain out of stocks every year  we&#8217;d be more than happy. In short, whatever anyone says, stocks remain the best  wealth builder bar none&#8230;and this is definitely a <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/pro1.portphillippublishing.com.au\/167844\/\">buyer&#8217;s  market<\/a>&nbsp;rather  than a seller&#8217;s market.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cheers,<br \/>\n  Kris<a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/u\/1\/102832084048340347143\/about\">+<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Special Report: <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/pro1.portphillippublishing.com.au\/167846\/\">The &#8216;Wonder Weld&#8217; That Could Triple Your  Money<\/a><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/106516983215198267222\/about\" title=\"Join Money Morning on Google Plus -- and read about the things we can't always fit into our regular essays\"><u>Join Money Morning on Google+ <\/u><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"feedflare\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=BFzrfW0JYAk:Z3HGLWy5A7U:yIl2AUoC8zA\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?d=yIl2AUoC8zA\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=BFzrfW0JYAk:Z3HGLWy5A7U:V_sGLiPBpWU\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?i=BFzrfW0JYAk:Z3HGLWy5A7U:V_sGLiPBpWU\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=BFzrfW0JYAk:Z3HGLWy5A7U:gIN9vFwOqvQ\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?i=BFzrfW0JYAk:Z3HGLWy5A7U:gIN9vFwOqvQ\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/MoneyMorningAustralia\/~4\/BFzrfW0JYAk\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\" \/><br \/>\nBy <a href=\"http:\/\/www.MoneyMorning.com.au\" target=\"_blank\"><u>MoneyMorning.com.au<\/u><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By MoneyMorning.com.au It&#8217;s the final stretch. The market is down to the last 20 trading days of the year. During that time, if the market is to get to our 6,000 point year-end target it will need to gain 12.8%. It seems impossible. And maybe it is. Yet, even if it does nothing from here, &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/2013\/12\/01\/property-investors-can-only-dream-of-disappointing-returns-like-this\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Property Investors Can Only Dream of \u2018Disappointing\u2019 Returns Like This&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-44824","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44824","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=44824"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44824\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=44824"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=44824"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=44824"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}