{"id":44822,"date":"2013-12-01T20:48:33","date_gmt":"2013-12-02T01:48:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/countingpips.com\/forex-news\/?p=44822"},"modified":"2013-12-01T20:48:33","modified_gmt":"2013-12-02T01:48:33","slug":"it-wont-be-long-until-mainstream-economists-change-their-tune","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/2013\/12\/01\/it-wont-be-long-until-mainstream-economists-change-their-tune\/","title":{"rendered":"It Won\u2019t Be Long Until Mainstream Economists Change Their Tune"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>By <a href=\"http:\/\/www.MoneyMorning.com.au\" target=\"_blank\"><u>MoneyMorning.com.au<\/u><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The rationale for low interest rates  and QE (money printing) is to achieve a lower unemployment rate and higher  inflation. Well according to the recent Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC)  they have so far failed to achieve their dual mandate. See the following  extract from the FOMC 29-30 October 2013 meeting, with my emphasis added:<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8216;Although the incoming data suggested that growth in the second half might prove somewhat weaker than many of  them had previously anticipated, participants broadly continued to project the  pace of economic activity to pick up.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>&#8216;Participants generally expected that the data would prove consistent  with the Committee&#8217;s outlook for ongoing improvement in labor market conditions and would thus warrant trimming the pace  of purchases in coming months.&#8217;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/financial-system\/banks-and-interest-rates\/the-federal-reserve\" title=\"more on the US Federal Reserve \">Federal Reserve<\/a> acknowledges that growth is  weaker, but is still sticking to the line that it will taper. Forever the  optimists.<\/p>\n<p>Two senior US Federal Reserve Bank  <strong>economists<\/strong>, William English and David Wilcox, recently reinforced this message  when they addressed the Annual IMF Research Conference. The papers they  presented at the conference dealt with life after the Fed tapers &#8211; not if but  when.<\/p>\n<p>This was a clear signal (as opposed  to Bernanke&#8217;s rather on\/off signal) to the market that the Fed is set to reduce  the level of monthly money creation from $85 Billion to a slightly lesser number.  Prepping the market for a potential (and I stress potential) change in  &#8216;medication&#8217; is part of the new Janet Yellen communication strategy. <\/p>\n<p>The other message from the Fed was  ZIRP (zero interest rate policy) is here to stay until at least 2017. Remember  ZIRP was a &#8216;short term&#8217; measure introduced by the Fed in December 2008 to  kick-start the US economy. <\/p>\n<h2>This is No Ordinary Recession <\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p>Money creation and low interest rates  have worked a charm for all post Second World War recessions. But what the Fed  and other central bankers (we&#8217;ll come to Europe shortly) are finding out is  this is <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/pro1.portphillippublishing.com.au\/167852\/\">no ordinary recession<\/a> &nbsp;caused by a slump in the business  cycle. This is an economic funk caused by <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/pro1.portphillippublishing.com.au\/167852\/\">a collapse in the credit cycle.<\/a> <\/p>\n<p>The Great Depression and Japan post-1990  are the only recent examples of a credit cycle slump&#8230;and neither of these make  for pleasant bedtime reading.<\/p>\n<p>Professor Paul Krugman (the Nobel  Laureate economist and the Fed&#8217;s mainstream economic cheerleader) argues ZIRP  and QE should be maintained because the US is mired in &#8216;depression&#8217; conditions.  The fact Krugman has acknowledged the depressive state of the<a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/economy\/usa-economy\" title=\"more on the US economy \"> US economy<\/a> is a  major departure on his previously stated position. Here are some excerpts from  his column and my interpretations:<\/p>\n<p>Krugman:<em> &#8216;&#8230;if our (US) economy has a persistent tendency toward depression,  we&#8217;re going to be living under the looking-glass rules of depression economics  &#8211; in which virtue is vice and prudence is folly, in which attempts to save more  (including attempts to reduce budget deficits) make everyone worse off &#8211; for a  long time.&#8217; <\/em><\/p>\n<p>GFW: To me this is<a href=\"http:\/\/www.pursuitofhappiness.com.au\/market-news\/that-squeeze-you-feel-is-the-great-credit-contraction-part-1\/5709\/\" title=\"That Squeeze You Feel Is The Great Credit Contraction\"> The Great Credit Contraction<\/a> at work. The more the<strong> economy<\/strong> and markets deflate, the greater the  tendency to save and therefore the depression cycle continues to feed upon  itself.<\/p>\n<p>Krugman: <em>&#8216;&#8230;evidence suggests that we have become an economy whose normal state  is one of mild depression, whose brief episodes of prosperity occur only thanks  to bubbles and unsustainable borrowing&#8230;&#8217;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>GFW: No kidding Sherlock. The longer  this goes on, the less mild the depression will be. The authorities creating  bubbles based on unsustainable borrowings is not prosperity; it is lunacy.<\/p>\n<p>Krugman: <em>&#8216;Why might this be happening? One answer could be slowing population  growth&#8230;&#8217;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>GFW: Perhaps. But it could also be  people have debt fatigue in addition to rising living costs and higher taxes  from over-indebted governments.<\/p>\n<p>Krugman: <em>&#8216;Another important factor [for the mild depression] may be persistent  trade deficits&#8230;&#8217;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>GFW: This sounds like a call to arms  for the currency war I mentioned last week.<\/p>\n<p>In my opinion The Great Credit  Contraction (GCC) has confounded many an economist. Deflating the credit bubble is deflating the economy. <\/p>\n<p>The longer the GCC continues to  tighten its grip on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/economy\/global-economy\" title=\"more on the global economy \">the global economy<\/a>, the more I expect mainstream economic  commentators to follow the lead of that other famous economist John Maynard  Keynes, when he once said, <em>&#8216;When the  facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?&#8217;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Vern Gowdie<a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/u\/8\/107899627744563523836\/about\">+<\/a><\/strong><br \/>\n    <strong>Chairman, Gowdie Family Wealth<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/106516983215198267222\/about\" title=\"Join Money Morning on Google Plus -- and read about the things we can't always fit into our regular essays\"><u>Join Money Morning on Google+ <\/u><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"feedflare\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=2BRLkZQ74Pk:CDaSFGFMwxE:yIl2AUoC8zA\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?d=yIl2AUoC8zA\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=2BRLkZQ74Pk:CDaSFGFMwxE:V_sGLiPBpWU\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?i=2BRLkZQ74Pk:CDaSFGFMwxE:V_sGLiPBpWU\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=2BRLkZQ74Pk:CDaSFGFMwxE:gIN9vFwOqvQ\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?i=2BRLkZQ74Pk:CDaSFGFMwxE:gIN9vFwOqvQ\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/MoneyMorningAustralia\/~4\/2BRLkZQ74Pk\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\" \/><br \/>\nBy <a href=\"http:\/\/www.MoneyMorning.com.au\" target=\"_blank\"><u>MoneyMorning.com.au<\/u><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By MoneyMorning.com.au The rationale for low interest rates and QE (money printing) is to achieve a lower unemployment rate and higher inflation. Well according to the recent Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) they have so far failed to achieve their dual mandate. See the following extract from the FOMC 29-30 October 2013 meeting, with my &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/2013\/12\/01\/it-wont-be-long-until-mainstream-economists-change-their-tune\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;It Won\u2019t Be Long Until Mainstream Economists Change Their Tune&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-44822","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44822","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=44822"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44822\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=44822"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=44822"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=44822"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}