{"id":43191,"date":"2013-10-20T18:19:34","date_gmt":"2013-10-20T22:19:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/countingpips.com\/forex-news\/?p=43191"},"modified":"2013-10-20T18:19:34","modified_gmt":"2013-10-20T22:19:34","slug":"should-you-forget-about-the-us-government-debt-debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/2013\/10\/20\/should-you-forget-about-the-us-government-debt-debate\/","title":{"rendered":"Should You Forget About The US Government Debt Debate?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>By <a href=\"http:\/\/www.MoneyMorning.com.au\" target=\"_blank\"><u>MoneyMorning.com.au<\/u><\/a> <\/p>\n<p>So in the  end the <strong>US government debt<\/strong> debate gets resolved for another few months. Except  nothing has really been resolved, mostly just delayed. Put an entry in your  calendar for the same cycle to repeat around about January next year.&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>The other  thing you should pencil in is the Port Phillip Publishing2014 conference, World War D: Money, War and Survival in the  Digital Age. Put your email on the <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/signup.portphillippublishing.com.au\/XWEBPA06\">hotlist<\/a> &nbsp;if  you&#8217;re interested. You&#8217;ll be eligible for an early bird offer but with no  obligation. There&#8217;s going to be a cracking line up of speakers. We&#8217;re not at  liberty to say who just yet.&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>Speaking of  money, it was interesting to hear currency expert Jim Rickards this week.&nbsp; Rickards, a gold bull, has long said the path  of the <strong>US dollar<\/strong> is unsustainable. Therefor it will not be sustained. Nothing  about the recent &#8216;resolution&#8217; of the debt situation changes that at all&#8230;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Two Countries Still  Feeling the Squeeze <\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p>As Rickards  noted this week, the <strong>US debt<\/strong>, deficit and debt to GDP ratio are still going up.  The debate was never about cutting US government spending, it was about the  rate of increase. It was never a real government shutdown, either, just a  temporary stop in the US ability to go deeper into debt.&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>One takeaway  from the US political gridlock is that the future of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/financial-system\/currency-market\/us-dollar\" title=\"more on the US dollar\">US dollar<\/a> looks a bit  dimmer in the eyes of the world.&nbsp; You&#8217;d  think then that the future for gold would look brighter. But you wouldn&#8217;t know  it by looking at the price. Editor Den Denning made his way north late this  week to the 2013 Gold Symposium in Sydney.<\/p>\n<p>He might&#8217;ve  faced a more sceptical crowd than in previous years. Gold has a date with its  first down year in 13 years since the beginning of the bull run that saw it go  from US$250 to over US$1900. It&#8217;s currently trading around $US1300 but showing  little sign of life.<\/p>\n<p>Over at the <em>Daily Reckoning<\/em> last week, your editor  pointed out the physical gold market is under some pressure. That&#8217;s because the  largest market for gold is in India, and the government is trying to restrict  gold sales to reduce the country&#8217;s trade deficit. <\/p>\n<p>The <em>Wall Street Journal<\/em> reported that  imports of the metal fell 90% in August and <em>&#8216;the  import curbs had ramifications beyond India&#8217;s borders and helped muzzle a large  part of the global gold trade.&#8217;<\/em> According to the article, refiners and  traders in Switzerland and Dubai are feeling the slowdown. In September the  value of Indian gold imports dropped 82%.<\/p>\n<p>Of course,  these figures are based on official data. What nobody can really know is how  much gold is smuggled in. The <em>WSJ <\/em>also  noted that demand is starting to fire up as India moves into its festival  season, usually a time for gold buying. But premiums are high and gold supply  is short. That suggests the smugglers aren&#8217;t meeting the demand! <\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s the  physical market. But there&#8217;s some odd trades going on in the paper market as  well. <\/p>\n<p>Robin Bromby  in the <em>Australian <\/em>reported this week  that last Friday a huge two million ounce sell order hit the exchange at the  open. It was &#8216;<em>an order so big it  triggered an automatic 10-second trading interruption (and a $US30 an ounce  fall in the metal&#8217;s price)&#8230;There was a huge order unloaded on October 1, too,  and then we had that episode in April when, within two hours, 13.4 million  ounces was unloaded through Comex. Someone is determined to knock the stuffing  out of gold.<\/em>&#8216;<\/p>\n<p>Whether any  attempt to jerk the price around is just big money boys trying to work an edge  or something larger, we don&#8217;t know. Mr Brumby suggests the Chinese won&#8217;t mind,  because they&#8217;ll be able to buy up more. <\/p>\n<h2>Bullion Versus Miners <\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p>Bullion  buyers have the option to sit out the downside. That&#8217;s not a luxury afforded to  mining companies. They need money coming in. Greg Canavan, editor of <em><a href=\"http:\/\/pro1.portphillippublishing.com.au\/156222\/\">Sound Money Sound Investments,<\/a><\/em> has been running the ruler over the gold miners. With gold at these prices,  many gold miners will not only be not making money, they may not even have  positive cash flow. Greg highlighted this research from UK company Hinde  Capital this week:&nbsp; <br \/>\n  &nbsp;<br \/>\n<em>&nbsp;&#8217;From an investor&#8217;s perspective it is a  treacherous minefield&#8230;<\/em> <em>While the big caps that make up the GDX index are unlikely to go out  of business in the short term and may offer some trading opportunities for a  bounce here, the very nature of this desperate business remains. Huge capital  is required a long time before there is even the<\/em> <em>sniff of future cash  flow. All companies can go to zero but mining companies get there much faster  than most.<\/em>&#8216;<\/p>\n<p>Hinde&#8217;s  research shows 109 global mining companies have suffered falls of 90% or more  from the peak, with another 58 not far behind, down 80-90%. That&#8217;s shows you  how savage this bear market has been. Their take is that gold bullion is an  attractive proposition at the current price, but forget the miners for now. That sounds like something Jim Rickards would agree with.  Stay tuned. <\/p>\n<p><strong>Callum Newman<a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/u\/7\/113805451050351871502\/about\">+<\/a><\/strong><br \/>\n    <strong>Editor, <em>Money Weekend <\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>From the Port Phillip Publishing  Library<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Special  Report: <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/pro1.portphillippublishing.com.au\/156227\/\">UNAVOIDABLE: Australia&#8217;s First Recession in 22 Years<\/a> &nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/106516983215198267222\/about\" title=\"Join Money Morning on Google Plus -- and read about the things we can't always fit into our regular essays\"><u>Join Money Morning on Google+ <\/u><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<h3>Author information<\/h3>\n<div class=\"ts-fab-wrapper\" style=\"overflow:hidden\">\n<div class=\"ts-fab-photo\" style=\"float:left;width:64px\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/bio-pic-Callum-colour.jpg\" width=\"64\" alt=\"Callum Newman\" \/><\/div>\n<p><!-- \/.ts-fab-photo --><\/p>\n<div class=\"ts-fab-text\" style=\"margin-left:74px\">\n<div class=\"ts-fab-header\">\n<div style=\"font-size: 1.25em;margin-bottom:0\"><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/about-callum-newman\">Callum Newman<\/a><\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><!-- \/.ts-fab-header --><\/p>\n<div class=\"ts-fab-content\" style=\"margin-bottom:0.5em\">Callum Newman is editor of the <em>Money Morning<\/em> weekend edition and co-editor of Port Phillip Publishing\u2019s subscribers-only email <em>Scoops Lane<\/em>.   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Except nothing has really been resolved, mostly just delayed. 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