{"id":43050,"date":"2013-10-14T22:18:49","date_gmt":"2013-10-15T02:18:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/countingpips.com\/forex-news\/?p=43050"},"modified":"2013-10-14T22:18:49","modified_gmt":"2013-10-15T02:18:49","slug":"why-the-market-could-triple-by-2017","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/2013\/10\/14\/why-the-market-could-triple-by-2017\/","title":{"rendered":"Why the Market Could Triple by 2017"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>By <a href=\"http:\/\/www.MoneyMorning.com.au\" target=\"_blank\"><u>MoneyMorning.com.au<\/u><\/a> <\/p>\n<p>From  2007 to late 2008 it would be fair to say we were bearish on <strong>the markets<\/strong>. That  means we thought there was a chance stocks would fall.<\/p>\n<p>Although  if we&#8217;re honest, they fell much further than we expected.<\/p>\n<p>From  late 2008 to late 2009 we were bullish. From that point on until early 2012 we  were largely neutral to bearish again.<\/p>\n<p>Since  early to mid-2012 we&#8217;ve had pretty much one thing on our mind &#8211; a raging bull  market for stocks. And while many seem to think the bull market glory days are  over, we&#8217;re in no mood to agree.<\/p>\n<p>In  fact, despite the volatility and the bearish market atmosphere, we still say  that stocks are heading in one direction over the next 18 months, and that&#8217;s  up&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s  not to say there won&#8217;t be some bumps along the way.<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s  still a chance that the US government will default on its obligation to pay  interest and principal on its bonds.<\/p>\n<p>While  a default would be good in the long run, in the short term it would have a big  impact on the markets. Remember that US government bonds affect the prices of  all securities worldwide.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s  because investors see US government bonds as a risk-free investment. Every  other investment such as bonds, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/stock-market\/stocks-and-bonds\" title=\"more on stocks\">stocks<\/a>, and mortgages has its price in some way  determined by the US bond price.<\/p>\n<h2>The  Next Rally Could be Just the Beginning<\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s  also the question of whether new <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20131015\/the-most-qualified-federal-reserve-chairman-since-arthur-burns.html\" title=\"The Most Qualified Federal Reserve Chairman Since Arthur Burns\">US Federal Reserve chairman<\/a>, Dr Janet L Yellen,  will continue to print money and buy US government bonds.<\/p>\n<p>Many  think it will be business as usual under Dr Yellen. To your editor it&#8217;s a no  brainer. There&#8217;s no way the Fed will halt a policy that has helped boost stock  prices to a record high.<\/p>\n<p>This  is why we&#8217;ve set a price target of 6,000 points for the S&amp;P\/ASX 200 by  early next year, and 7,000 points in 2015. If we&#8217;re right and the market gets  there then anything is possible after that. In fact if the market really starts  to bubble you could see stock prices reach 15,000 points by 2017.<\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;ll  admit it&#8217;s an out-there call. But similar sized increases have happened in the  past. The<a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/stock-market\/australian-share-market-stocks\" title=\"more on the Australian stock market\"> Australian stock market<\/a> doubled from mid-2004 to late 2007. That was just  over three years:<\/p>\n<div align=\"center\"><a href=\"http:\/\/portphillippublishing.com.au\/images\/MPR20131015a.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/portphillippublishing.com.au\/images\/MPR20131015a.jpg\" width=\"391\" height=\"180\" border=\"0\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Source: Google Finance<\/strong><\/div>\n<p><Br><\/p>\n<p>So is  it really so crazy to think <strong>stocks<\/strong> could do something similar over the next two  to four years?<\/p>\n<p>Remember  that the <strong>Australian market<\/strong> is only up 65.6% since the March 2009 low. So it&#8217;s not  as though the market has exhausted all its potential gains. Although as we  mentioned in yesterday&#8217;s <em>Money Morning<\/em>,  a selection of Aussie <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/stock-market\/stocks-and-bonds\/blue-chip-stocks\" title=\"more on blue-chip stocks\">blue-chip stocks<\/a> have performed much better than the  broader index.<\/p>\n<h2>Bear  Market Trades in a Bull Market<\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p>But  despite our talk about stocks going up, it&#8217;s important to remember that we&#8217;re  not a cheerleader for the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/stock-market\" title=\"more on the stock market\">stock market<\/a> and the current state of the world  economy.<\/p>\n<p>We  understand there are problems&#8230;big problems. But we also understand that this is  exactly the type of market where you can <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/pro1.portphillippublishing.com.au\/155134\/\">make some serious money<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Of  course, not everyone agrees with our view. There are still a lot of bears  saying the market is set to fall. But so far it has been a tough year for most  bearish hedge fund traders. Although some bears have done better, such as our old pal Dan Denning, who has helped his <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/pro1.portphillippublishing.com.au\/155136\/\">readers make money <em>without<\/em> short selling stocks<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The  reason the hedge funds have gotten it so wrong is that they&#8217;ve tried to short  what has been (so far) a gradually rising market.<\/p>\n<div align=\"center\"><a href=\"http:\/\/portphillippublishing.com.au\/images\/MPR20131015b.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/portphillippublishing.com.au\/images\/MPR20131015b.jpg\" width=\"401\" height=\"134\" border=\"0\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Source: Google Finance<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/p>\n<p>It  can be hard to make money short selling at the best of times. It&#8217;s even harder  when stocks keep going up despite the worsening macro-economic outlook.<\/p>\n<p>But  to make matters worse it seems the short sellers may have been the victims of  their own actions. As the <em>Bloomberg<\/em> report notes:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>&#8216;<em>The embrace of bearish trades has squeezed  returns for professionals and is one reason stocks have repeatedly rallied in  2013 amid slowing economic and profit growth, according to Cambiar Investors  LLC and Pension Partners LLC. Rather than falling, shares that investors have  shorted the most are up 38 percent since January, a consequence of forced  buying during rallies by speculators who borrowed and sold them, data compiled  by Goldman Sachs Group Inc. show.<\/em>&#8216;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>So  not only have the stocks short sold by hedge funds not fallen, but those stock  have almost doubled the performance of the S&amp;P 500 during the same  timeframe &#8211; which is only up 21.9%.<\/p>\n<p>Talk  about a kick in the guts.<\/p>\n<h2>Crash  Alert Set to High, but We&#8217;re Still Buying Stocks<\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p>And  doubtless last night&#8217;s<strong> market <\/strong>action has given them another kick. With all the  talk about the US budget and debt ceiling talks still up in the air, it would  have been reasonable to think stocks would fall. But they didn&#8217;t. They closed  the day up 0.4%.<\/p>\n<p>The  tech-heavy NASDAQ index did better, gaining 0.6%.<\/p>\n<p>Even  so, we&#8217;ve always got our crash alert set to high. We&#8217;re always looking out for  excessive bravado. (Maybe our own claim about the market hitting 7,000 is  excessive bravado and should be a warning in itself!)<\/p>\n<p>But  there is a difference. We get it that the world economy is living on borrowed  time. Most in the mainstream still don&#8217;t quite get it. More from Bloomberg:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>&#8216;<em>&ldquo;There still are people out there who are  convinced the whole market and financial system is some house of cards,&rdquo; said  Brian Barish, president of Denver-based Cambiar Investors, which manages about $8  billion, said Oct. 10. &ldquo;I think they wind up shooting themselves and their  investors in the foot with the permabear mentality, but it persists.&rdquo;<\/em>&#8216;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><em>That&#8217;s<\/em> the  voice of someone who <em>doesn&#8217;t<\/em> get it.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s  the voice of a financial advisor who probably has most of their client&#8217;s money  invested in stocks without any thought that <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/pro1.portphillippublishing.com.au\/155136\/\">stocks could  crash<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>As  for us, despite our call of the ASX hitting 7,000 we&#8217;ve still got a level head  when it comes to investing. We know that you can make a lot of money, but we also  know it&#8217;s risky.<\/p>\n<p>Our  bet remains that the US deadlock will end within days. Providing you understand  the risks, our view is that you should use the current price weakness as an  opportunity to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20110212\/how-to-buy-and-sell-shares.html\" title=\"how to buy stocks\">buy stocks<\/a>. Once the US politicians reach a deal it could signal  the start of the next rally.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cheers,<br \/>\n  Kris<a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/u\/1\/102832084048340347143\/about\">+<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>From the Port Phillip Publishing Library<\/em><\/strong><strong> <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Special Report: <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/pro1.portphillippublishing.com.au\/155136\/\">UNAVOIDABLE: Australia&#8217;s First Recession  in 22 Years<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/106516983215198267222\/about\" title=\"Join Money Morning on Google Plus -- and read about the things we can't always fit into our regular essays\"><u>Join Money Morning on Google+ <\/u><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"feedflare\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=yKArY2-e66E:fmfbmCDAEiI:yIl2AUoC8zA\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?d=yIl2AUoC8zA\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=yKArY2-e66E:fmfbmCDAEiI:V_sGLiPBpWU\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?i=yKArY2-e66E:fmfbmCDAEiI:V_sGLiPBpWU\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=yKArY2-e66E:fmfbmCDAEiI:gIN9vFwOqvQ\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?i=yKArY2-e66E:fmfbmCDAEiI:gIN9vFwOqvQ\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/MoneyMorningAustralia\/~4\/yKArY2-e66E\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\" \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By MoneyMorning.com.au From 2007 to late 2008 it would be fair to say we were bearish on the markets. That means we thought there was a chance stocks would fall. Although if we&#8217;re honest, they fell much further than we expected. From late 2008 to late 2009 we were bullish. From that point on until &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/2013\/10\/14\/why-the-market-could-triple-by-2017\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Why the Market Could Triple by 2017&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-43050","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/43050","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=43050"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/43050\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=43050"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=43050"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=43050"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}