{"id":41275,"date":"2013-08-22T21:35:21","date_gmt":"2013-08-23T01:35:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/countingpips.com\/forex-news\/?p=41275"},"modified":"2013-08-22T21:35:21","modified_gmt":"2013-08-23T01:35:21","slug":"could-gold-really-fall-to-500","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/2013\/08\/22\/could-gold-really-fall-to-500\/","title":{"rendered":"Could Gold Really Fall to $500?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>By <a href=\"http:\/\/www.MoneyMorning.com.au\" target=\"_blank\"><u>MoneyMorning.com.au<\/u><\/a> <\/p>\n<p>The recent market uncertainty is no doubt causing  investors some angst. That&#8217;s especially true for those in or nearing  retirement.&nbsp; The &#8216;professionals&#8217; keep  reassuring us the global economy is slowly recovering and that this will  underpin future market performance.<\/p>\n<p>But this ignores the fact that the economy and markets  have the twin props of money printing (QE) and zero interest rate policies  (ZIRP) supporting this so-called &#8216;recovery&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p>So when or if central banks remove these props what  are the consequences? <\/p>\n<p>The unprecedented levels of central banker  intervention are a result of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20130731\/that-squeeze-you-feel-is-the-great-credit-contraction-part-1.html\" title=\"That Squeeze You Feel is The Great Credit Contraction (Part 1)\">The Great Credit Contraction <\/a>(GCC). The GCC isn&#8217;t  your &#8216;run of the mill&#8217; recession. It&#8217;s a result of the collapse of a credit  bubble the likes of which the world has never seen before.<\/p>\n<p>And so a genuine recovery can only take place after  slowly and painfully removing the massive build-up of debt from the system.<\/p>\n<p>Therefore, it&#8217;s dangerous to have an <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/investments\/investment-strategy\" title=\"more on investment strategies\">investment strategy <\/a>that presumes the worst is over and that you&#8217;ll shortly see a return  to &#8216;normal service&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p>My guess is those who believe in the &#8216;share market  always goes up&#8217; mantra will run out of money and patience long before this  market delivers on that Secular Bull Market promise.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<h2>Central Banks Can&#8217;t Deny This Major Trend &nbsp;<\/h2>\n<p>\n<\/p>\n<p>Recent data from Europe and the US show these  economies are, at best, limping along. The inclusion of vast amounts of  stimulus money has inflated the anemic growth numbers. Take out the government  giveaways and you&#8217;ll see their real economies are well and truly in reverse  gear.<\/p>\n<p>That means in this new world of credit contraction, an  investment strategy based on how things worked in recent decades is destined to  make you much poorer. And as this loss of wealth effect slowly embeds in  society&#8217;s psyche, you can expect to see more direct intervention by policy  makers.<\/p>\n<p>Forget taper, they&#8217;ll continue to tamper.<\/p>\n<p>The central bankers are trying (in vain) to alter the  market&#8217;s destiny with economic reality. Based on previous interventions, any  success will be fleeting. The fact is markets respond to the stimulus steroid  until they don&#8217;t. But for the central bankers, withdrawal isn&#8217;t an option so  the market will likely &#8216;die&#8217; from a stimulus overdose.<\/p>\n<p>Having a big picture strategy and a good deal of  patience lets you view these market movements as part of the longer-term trend.  It&#8217;s a trend in which the market goes much lower.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20130819\/holding-cash-is-an-investment-strategy-too.html\" title=\"Holding Cash is an Investment Strategy Too\">Holding cash while markets fall<\/a> is the first half of  the strategy. The other part is deciding when to begin investing in markets  again. One of the indicators to watch is the<strong> Dow\/Gold ratio<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>History has shown that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/gold-and-silver\/gold\" title=\"more on gold\">gold<\/a> is &#8216;the ultimate store of  wealth&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p>In the good times investors chase markets (paper  money) and in the bad times they go back to <strong>gold <\/strong>(real money). The Dow\/Gold  ratio tracks this &#8216;greed and fear&#8217; relationship.<\/p>\n<p>The following chart of the Dow\/Gold ratio shows how  investors fall in and out of love with each asset class:<\/p>\n<div align=\"center\"><a href=\"http:\/\/portphillippublishing.com.au\/images\/MPR20130823b.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/portphillippublishing.com.au\/images\/MPR20130823b.jpg\" width=\"406\" height=\"306\" border=\"0\"><\/a><strong> <br \/>\n  <\/strong>Note: Prior to 1896 a  surrogate index is used for the DJIA Index.<strong><br \/>\nSource: www.bullmarketthinking.com<\/strong><strong> <\/strong><\/div>\n<p>It&#8217;s interesting to note the level of volatility  before and after the creation of the US Federal Reserve. After the Panic of  1907, the creation of the US Fed was supposed to be the great stabiliser &#8211; at  least according to the Act. The following is an extract from www.investopedia.com  : <\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><strong><em>Definition of  &#8217;1913 Federal Reserve Act&#8217;<\/em><\/strong><br \/>\n    <em>The 1913 U.S. legislation that created the  current Federal Reserve System. The Federal Reserve Act intended to establish a  form of economic stability through the introduction of the Central Bank, which  would be in charge of monetary policy, into the United States. The Federal  Reserve Act is perhaps one of the most influential laws concerning the U.S.  financial system.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>The graph confirms what we already know &#8211; that when  authorities and bankers meddle, the markets go haywire. Bernanke and co are  continuing a long tradition of central bankers who think they are smarter than  the collective.<\/p>\n<p>(The fact we don&#8217;t need central bankers at all is a  discussion for another day.) <\/p>\n<p>But let&#8217;s go  back to focusing on what history may tell us about the near term destiny of  these two asset classes.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<h2>Your Best Bet May Be to Take a View From Here <\/h2>\n<p>\n<\/p>\n<p>At the peak of the &#8216;tech boom&#8217; in 2000, the Dow Jones  Index was 11,700 points and the<strong> gold price<\/strong> was at a low of $280 per ounce. That  means the ratio was 42 (11,700\/280).&nbsp; In  a two-century period, the 2000 Dow\/Gold ratio peak has been the pinnacle of  greed and over-optimism.<\/p>\n<p>The Dow Jones index is currently around 14,900 points  and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/gold-and-silver\/gold\/gold-price\" title=\"more on the price of gold\">gold is $1,365 per ounce<\/a>, giving a ratio of 10.9. Previous secular bear  markets show the Dow\/Gold ratio reaches a low of 1 to 2 before a market  collapse is complete (the depth of fear and pessimism).<\/p>\n<p>How do we get to a ratio of 1 or 2? There are four  main equations (and a number of variations on them):<\/p>\n<ol start=\"1\" type=\"1\">\n<li>The Dow stays around current levels       and gold rises to $7500\/oz or higher &#8211; these were the dynamics that caused       the Dow\/Gold ratio to bottom out in 1980.<\/li>\n<li>Gold stays around currently levels       and the Dow falls to 2700 points or lower &#8211; these were the dynamics that       caused the low in the Dow\/Gold ratio during The Great Depression.<\/li>\n<li>The Dow falls in value (say to 7000       points) and gold increases to $3500\/oz or higher.<\/li>\n<li>Both gold and the Dow fall to much       lower levels &#8211; say gold at $500\/oz and the Dow at 1000 points &#8211; this is       the deflationary scenario The Great Credit Contraction may deliver to us.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>The previous lows in the Dow\/Gold ratio have come  about by differing dynamics. This tends to add credence to the saying, &#8216;History  does not always repeat itself, but it does rhyme.&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>If the long-term cycle of a lower <strong>Dow\/Gold <\/strong>is in our  future, it&#8217;s unlikely the Dow will increase from current levels. Best case is  the Dow remains stagnant. The higher probability is that it falls &#8211; possibly  50% or more.<\/p>\n<p>A fall of this size is also reflective of the pattern  of past Secular BearMarkets. There  are times to be brave and times to be cautious. For me caution is the better  option.<\/p>\n<p>In short, my position is to remain on the sidelines in  cash and be an interested spectator.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Vern Gowdie<a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/u\/8\/107899627744563523836\/about\">+<\/a><br \/>\n  Editor, <em>Gowdie Family Wealth<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/106516983215198267222\/about\" title=\"Join Money Morning on Google Plus -- and read about the things we can't always fit into our regular essays\"><u>Join Money Morning on Google+ <\/u><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>From the Archives&#8230;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20130816\/how-many-warren-buffetts-in-a-bar-of-gold.html\" title=\"Permanent Link to How Many Warren Buffett&rsquo;s in a Bar of Gold?\" target=\"_blank\">How Many Warren Buffett&#8217;s in a Bar of  Gold?<\/a> <br \/>\n16-08-2013 &#8211; &nbsp;Kris Sayce <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20130815\/two-points-to-consider-from-the-commonwealth-bank.html\" title=\"Permanent Link to Two Points to Consider from the Commonwealth Bank&hellip;\" target=\"_blank\">Two Points to Consider from the  Commonwealth Bank&#8230;<\/a><br \/>\n15-08-2013 &#8211; &nbsp;Kris Sayce <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20130814\/take-control-of-your-superannuation-but-know-the-limits.html\" title=\"Permanent Link to Take Control of Your Superannuation, but Know the Limits\" target=\"_blank\">Take Control of Your Superannuation, but Know the  Limits<\/a> <br \/>\n14-08-2013 &#8211; Vern Gowdie <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20130813\/why-im-glad-i-missed-a-dividend-stock-that-doubled.html\" title=\"Permanent Link to Why I&rsquo;m Glad I Missed a Dividend Stock That Doubled&hellip;\" target=\"_blank\">Why I&#8217;m Glad I Missed a Dividend Stock  That Doubled&#8230;<\/a> <br \/>\n13-08-2013 &#8211; Kris Sayce <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20130812\/no-profit-in-the-federal-reserve-divination.html\" title=\"Permanent Link to No Profit in the Federal Reserve Divination\" target=\"_blank\">No Profit in the Federal Reserve Divination<\/a> <br \/>\n12-08-2013 &#8211; Dan Denning<\/p>\n<div class=\"feedflare\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=lPYrNuO-NOg:BMsi1LytlrU:yIl2AUoC8zA\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?d=yIl2AUoC8zA\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=lPYrNuO-NOg:BMsi1LytlrU:V_sGLiPBpWU\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?i=lPYrNuO-NOg:BMsi1LytlrU:V_sGLiPBpWU\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=lPYrNuO-NOg:BMsi1LytlrU:gIN9vFwOqvQ\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?i=lPYrNuO-NOg:BMsi1LytlrU:gIN9vFwOqvQ\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/MoneyMorningAustralia\/~4\/lPYrNuO-NOg\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\" \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By MoneyMorning.com.au The recent market uncertainty is no doubt causing investors some angst. That&#8217;s especially true for those in or nearing retirement.&nbsp; The &#8216;professionals&#8217; keep reassuring us the global economy is slowly recovering and that this will underpin future market performance. But this ignores the fact that the economy and markets have the twin props &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/2013\/08\/22\/could-gold-really-fall-to-500\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Could Gold Really Fall to $500?&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-41275","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41275","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=41275"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41275\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=41275"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=41275"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=41275"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}