{"id":41190,"date":"2013-08-21T01:04:27","date_gmt":"2013-08-21T05:04:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/countingpips.com\/forex-news\/?p=41190"},"modified":"2013-08-21T01:04:27","modified_gmt":"2013-08-21T05:04:27","slug":"if-you-think-australian-housing-dodged-a-bullet-think-again","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/2013\/08\/21\/if-you-think-australian-housing-dodged-a-bullet-think-again\/","title":{"rendered":"If You Think Australian Housing Dodged a Bullet, Think Again\u2026"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>By <a href=\"http:\/\/www.MoneyMorning.com.au\" target=\"_blank\"><u>MoneyMorning.com.au<\/u><\/a> <\/p>\n<p>Everywhere  we looked yesterday it was gloom, gloom, gloom.<\/p>\n<p>BHP Billiton [ASX: BHP] reported a 30% drop in profit.<\/p>\n<p>Coca Cola Amatil [ASX: CCL] has  seen earnings fall.<\/p>\n<p>And QBE Insurance Group [ASX: QBE] shares  fell 5.5% after posting a 37% drop in first-half profits.<\/p>\n<p>Isn&#8217;t  there any good news anywhere?<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps  one place: the <strong>Australian housing market<\/strong>&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>It  seems ridiculous to say it, but <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/property-market\/australian-housing\" title=\"more on Australian Housing \">Australian housing<\/a> seems to be the one market not  suffering from a confidence crisis.<\/p>\n<p>As a  long-time housing market bear, we hope you can appreciate how difficult it is  for us to acknowledge that.<\/p>\n<p>Now,  don&#8217;t get us wrong. We&#8217;re not saying house prices are good value and that you  should rush out to secure a million-dollar mortgage. But it&#8217;s also true to say  that for the most part <strong>Australian house prices<\/strong> haven&#8217;t suffered the huge correction  we predicted in 2009.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s  when we pencilled in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/property-market\/australian-house-prices\" title=\"more on Australian House Prices\">Australian house prices<\/a> to fall 40%. Aside from notoriously  volatile markets such as the Gold Coast, that didn&#8217;t happen.<\/p>\n<p>So,  what&#8217;s next for the Australian housing market? Is it truly a &#8216;miracle market&#8217; that  will never crash? Or, like the one-time miracle <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/economy\/australia-economy\" title=\"more on the Australian Economy\">Australian economy<\/a>, is its luck  about to run out?<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<h2>Markets  Crash When You Least Expect it<\/h2>\n<p>\n<\/p>\n<p> Not  according to Terry Ryder at <em>Property  Observer<\/em>. He says that in order for prices to collapse after a price  bubble, you need a price bubble to form first. Fair enough. But Ryder says that  hasn&#8217;t happened yet.<\/p>\n<p>He  notes:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>&#8216;<em>Three years ago BIS Shrapnel, which makes  part of its living from mis-forecasting property markets, declared in 2010 that  capital city prices would continue to rise strongly.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&#8216;<em>By 2013 Perth would be up 22% and both  Sydney and Adelaide would have added 20%.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&#8216;<em>Nothing of the sort happened, of course.  Three years on, Perth is up about 7% and Sydney a meagre 4%. Adelaide is still  down 3%. These are not statistics that support bubble theories.<\/em>&#8216;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>On  the surface, it&#8217;s a fair argument. It makes sense that a bubble can only burst  if you inflate it. However, we&#8217;ll make one point. As we&#8217;ve seen recently with  stock and gold prices, bubbles don&#8217;t always burst exactly when you expect.<\/p>\n<p>In  fact, it also fair to say that bubbles don&#8217;t burst as long as people <em>expect<\/em> them to burst. The gold price  bubble is a great example. Look at the chart below:<\/p>\n<div align=\"center\"><a href=\"http:\/\/portphillippublishing.com.au\/images\/MPR20130821a.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/portphillippublishing.com.au\/images\/MPR20130821a.jpg\" width=\"435\" height=\"281\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<strong>Source: Goldprice.org<\/strong><\/div>\n<p>The  gold price peaked in mid-2011. After that it dropped and rallied several times.  But it never took out the high price. The assumption in the mainstream was that the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/gold-and-silver\/gold\/gold-price\" title=\"more on the gold price\">gold price <\/a>was in bubble territory and would collapse at any moment.<\/p>\n<p>It  may well have been in bubble territory, but the price didn&#8217;t collapse. As  recently as late last year, the gold price recovered again and looked strong.<\/p>\n<p>As  the money printing continued, it now seemed logical to many that gold would  have to remain relatively high. Talk of a gold bubble started to wane&#8230;and then  it crashed. The event folks had predicted for two years finally happened, just  when they least expected it.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<h2>Is  Now the Time?<\/h2>\n<p>\n<\/p>\n<p>To us  &#8211; in a way &#8211; the gold price action looks similar to the Aussie house price  action. Only the timeframe is different.<\/p>\n<p>Aussie  house prices soared in 2007, they fell a bit in 2008 and 2009 and then surged  higher through 2010. Since then prices have seen more modest gains.<\/p>\n<p>Now  there&#8217;s almost no talk about a<a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/property-market\/housing-bubble\" title=\"more on housing bubble\"> house price bubble<\/a>. In fact, the new theory is  that low interest rates will support the market forever (well, not quite).<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps  more evidence of the lack of bubble talk is that our publishers have even  agreed to publish the controversial analysis of Aussie economist, Phillip J  Anderson. He says Aussie house prices are set to enjoy a <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/pro1.portphillippublishing.com.au\/141003\" target=\"_blank\">14-year bull  market run<\/a>.  You can&#8217;t get much more bullish than that.<\/p>\n<p>We  don&#8217;t know if that seemingly outlandish forecast will come true. To be honest,  even though we like his argument (it&#8217;s the most compelling case we&#8217;ve seen in  more than five years) we still can&#8217;t get past the fact that Aussie house prices  boomed due to an unprecedented expansion of credit from the 1980s through to  the 2000s.<\/p>\n<p>Simple  maths suggests the market won&#8217;t repeat that kind of credit growth, because  people are already up to their necks in debt. That wasn&#8217;t the case 30 years ago  when the boom started.<\/p>\n<p>If  the <strong>housing market <\/strong>crash follows the same pattern as the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/gold-and-silver\/gold\" title=\"more on the gold market\">gold market<\/a> crash, a  house price crash may not be far away. As for a 40% drop, you may think we&#8217;d be  reluctant to put our name to that big a claim after getting it wrong last time.<\/p>\n<p>But  to us, it&#8217;s just common sense. There isn&#8217;t a single market anywhere else in the  world where prices soar and then never fall. The mainstream would have you  think the Aussie housing market is still a &#8216;miracle market&#8217;. We don&#8217;t buy a  word of it.<\/p>\n<p>The  <strong>Aussie housing market<\/strong> is heading for a fall&#8230;it&#8217;s just a matter of time.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cheers,<br \/>\n  Kris<a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/u\/1\/102832084048340347143\/about\">+<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\n<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/106516983215198267222\/about\" title=\"Join Money Morning on Google Plus -- and read about the things we can't always fit into our regular essays\"><u>Join Money Morning on Google+ <\/u><\/a><\/strong>\n<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>From the Port Phillip Publishing Library<\/em><\/strong><strong> <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Special Report: <a href=\"http:\/\/pro1.portphillippublishing.com.au\/141001\" target=\"_blank\">Make the  Chinese Pay For Your Retirement<\/a><br \/>\n  &nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Daily Reckoning:<\/em><strong> <\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailyreckoning.com.au\/a-bond-market-tantrum\/2013\/08\/20\/\" title=\"Permanent Link to A Bond Market Tantrum\" target=\"_blank\">A Bond Market Tantrum<\/a> <\/p>\n<p><em>Money Morning<\/em>: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20130820\/how-the-election-could-impact-stocks-and-why-you-should-ignore-it.html\" title=\"Permanent Link to How the Election Could Impact Stocks, and Why You Should Ignore It&hellip;\" target=\"_blank\">How the Election Could Impact Stocks, and  Why You Should Ignore It&#8230;<\/a><strong> <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Pursuit of Happiness:<\/em> &nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.pursuitofhappiness.com.au\/index.php\/market-news\/inflation-is-not-progress-this-is-progress\/5927\/\" title=\"Inflation is Not Progress, This is Progress&hellip;\" target=\"_blank\">Inflation is Not Progress, This is Progress&#8230;<\/a> <\/p>\n<p><em>Australian Small-Cap Investigator<\/em>:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.australiansmall-capinvestigator.com.au\">How to Make Big Money from Small-Cap Stocks<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"feedflare\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=2SOnZh9FRkc:e0u5HmVxRes:yIl2AUoC8zA\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?d=yIl2AUoC8zA\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=2SOnZh9FRkc:e0u5HmVxRes:V_sGLiPBpWU\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?i=2SOnZh9FRkc:e0u5HmVxRes:V_sGLiPBpWU\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=2SOnZh9FRkc:e0u5HmVxRes:gIN9vFwOqvQ\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?i=2SOnZh9FRkc:e0u5HmVxRes:gIN9vFwOqvQ\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/MoneyMorningAustralia\/~4\/2SOnZh9FRkc\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\" \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By MoneyMorning.com.au Everywhere we looked yesterday it was gloom, gloom, gloom. BHP Billiton [ASX: BHP] reported a 30% drop in profit. Coca Cola Amatil [ASX: CCL] has seen earnings fall. And QBE Insurance Group [ASX: QBE] shares fell 5.5% after posting a 37% drop in first-half profits. Isn&#8217;t there any good news anywhere? Perhaps one &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/2013\/08\/21\/if-you-think-australian-housing-dodged-a-bullet-think-again\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;If You Think Australian Housing Dodged a Bullet, Think Again\u2026&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-41190","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41190","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=41190"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41190\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=41190"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=41190"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=41190"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}