{"id":39201,"date":"2013-06-21T20:22:38","date_gmt":"2013-06-22T00:22:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/countingpips.com\/forex-news\/?p=39201"},"modified":"2013-06-21T20:22:38","modified_gmt":"2013-06-22T00:22:38","slug":"industry-veteran-vern-gowdie-tells-it-like-it-is","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/2013\/06\/21\/industry-veteran-vern-gowdie-tells-it-like-it-is\/","title":{"rendered":"Industry Veteran Vern Gowdie, Tells It Like It Is"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>By <a href=\"http:\/\/www.MoneyMorning.com.au\" target=\"_blank\"><u>MoneyMorning.com.au<\/u><\/a> <\/p>\n<p>In today&rsquo;s <em>Money  Weekend <\/em>we put aside the events of the week and in the markets for a chat  with <strong>Vern Gowdie<\/strong>, the latest editor to join Port Phillip Publishing. <\/p>\n<p>Vern is working on an exciting &lsquo;Family Office&rsquo; style  project that will draw on his nearly thirty years&rsquo; experience in financial  planning. You might have seen a couple of his articles appear in <em>Money Morning <\/em>over the last few  weeks.&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>One thing we can say right off the bat is that Vern&rsquo;s  position is the complete opposite of regular <em>Money Morning <\/em>editor Kris Sayce. <\/p>\n<p>Kris is backing a rising market over the next few  years. Vern is anticipating a falling one. <\/p>\n<p>But the differing views don&rsquo;t end there, so we thought  you might like to hear his take on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/stock-market\" title=\"more on the market\">the market <\/a>today and the message he&rsquo;ll be  bringing to <strong>investors<\/strong> across Australia with his new service&hellip; <\/p>\n<p><strong>CN:<\/strong> <strong>How is your view different from the other  editors at Port Phillip Publishing?<\/strong> <\/p>\n<p><strong>VG:<\/strong> Without differing views there would not be a market. Everyone would either be a  seller or a buyer. Differing views are healthy.<\/p>\n<p>When I read the research of the other editors, we are  not that dissimilar in our broad view of the global economy. They are highly  critical of central bank intervention and the distortions this madness has  created in markets. Our views differ on what this meddling will do to global  share markets.<\/p>\n<p>Some editors expect the Fed&rsquo;s levitation act to  support higher equity prices, whereas others have a more bearish outlook. For  reasons I will explain shortly, I am in the extremely bearish camp. Also, the  other key difference is in our approach to asset allocation &mdash; the other editors  are very much Alpha investors (individual stock selection and trading  strategies) while my investment philosophy is purely Beta (index investing).  The passive investor approach.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CN:<\/strong> <strong>Can you expand on why you are so negative  on the share market?<\/strong> <\/p>\n<p><strong>VG: <\/strong>To  paraphrase Heath Ledger&rsquo;s character The Joker, &lsquo;Why sooo bearish?&rsquo;<strong><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>As the saying goes &lsquo;If it walks like a duck, quacks  like a duck and looks like a duck, it must be a duck&rsquo;. This market looks like a  Secular Bear,has performed like a  Secular Bear and has P\/E contraction like a Secular Bear &mdash;therefore my conclusion is it must be a Secular Bear.<\/p>\n<p>Every Secular Bearmarket since 1900 has ended when the index P\/E reached single figures. The  S&amp;P 500 index P\/E currently sits around 20x. So unless &lsquo;this time is  different&rsquo; (the most infamous phrase in investing) a 50% reduction in P\/E still  awaits us from this Secular Bear market.<\/p>\n<p>The P\/E reduction can happen in three ways:<\/p>\n<ol start=\"1\" type=\"1\">\n<li>The       price remains static while earnings increase (this is what has happened       since 2000). The S&amp;P 500 is only slightly above its 2000 level while       earnings have more than doubled over the past thirteen years. The S&amp;P       500 index P\/E in 2000 was 42x.<\/li>\n<li>The earnings remain       static while the price falls. <\/li>\n<li>Earnings       and price both fall &mdash; this is the dire (extremely bearish) outcome I think       awaits us.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>Think about this math:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Earnings $1 million x P\/E 20 = $20 million<\/li>\n<li>Earnings fall 40% (due to deflationary  conditions created by The Great Credit Contraction <strong>and<\/strong> P\/E falls to the level experienced during The Great Depression  &#8211; the last global credit crisis)<\/li>\n<li>Earnings $600,000 x P\/E 5 = $3 million<\/li>\n<li>Market correction of 85%. Ouch!<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>CN: So you&rsquo;re betting  against the central banks?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>VG:<\/strong> The  Feds are not ploughing trillions of dollars into the markets for nothing &mdash; they  know what&rsquo;s at stake. The world&rsquo;s greatest period of Credit Expansion inflated  assets well above their intrinsic value. <\/p>\n<p>The Great Credit Contraction job is to deflate the  asset bubble. This has not happened &mdash; yet! The Feds see it as their mission to  stop the natural forces of the market. Good luck with that mission.<\/p>\n<p>As the tide goes out on the market, no company (no  matter how strong it is) will swim against the force of this current. It&rsquo;s for  this reason I prefer to invest in an asset class as opposed to individual  stocks.<\/p>\n<p>For the time being I do not want to be in the asset  class of shares. There is far too much downside for my liking. In my opinion,  the share market at current levels is high risk\/low return. <\/p>\n<p>When shares represent a low risk\/high reward  proposition, buying the ASX 200 index will be the easiest way for passive  investors to participate in its inevitable recovery.<\/p>\n<p>My investment approach will appeal to cautious  investors looking to protect their capital in an uncertain world.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CN: What can readers  expect from your new publication? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>VG:<\/strong> As  from 1 July 2013 the financial planning industry is being legislated into  acting in a client&rsquo;s best interest. You would think this would happen without  Canberra&rsquo;s intervention. However commissions, volume bonuses and institutional  ownership of financial planning firms have created situations where conflicts  of interest exist between the planner and the client.<\/p>\n<p>What the readers can expect from the &lsquo;Family Office&rsquo;  newsletter is what Canberra is legislating for &mdash; absolutely 100% unbiased views  on what I believe will assist investors protect and improve their capital.<\/p>\n<p>The newsletter will be as much about education and  guidance as it will be about where to invest. Any asset allocation I make will  be the same one I am undertaking for my family portfolio. <\/p>\n<p>Whether readers adopt the recommendations is entirely  up to them. Transparent, independent advice without paying a fee that is based  on a percentage of funds invested &mdash; this is the new face of financial advice. <\/p>\n<p><strong>CN: What&rsquo;s a common  mistake people make in regards to financial planning? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>VG:<\/strong> Impatience. Markets will do what they have to do in their own sweet time.  Trying to chase a certain return because you need it to achieve your goals is a  recipe for disaster. <\/p>\n<p>Patience and an understanding of the risk and reward  offered by all asset classes is the best way to protect and promote your  capital. Sometimes you have to stand still to go forward.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CN: <\/strong>Thanks  for your time, Vern.<strong><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/about-callum-newman\" title=\"About Callum Newman\">Callum Newman<\/a>.<br \/>\nEditor, <em>Money Morning<\/em><\/strong><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/u\/4\/113805451050351871502\/about\" title=\"Join Callum Newman on Google Plus\"><strong><U>Join me on Google+<\/strong><\/U><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>PS.<\/strong> Don&#8217;t forget if you want to keep track of the latest  things we&#8217;re reading and brief commentary on events that happen through the  day, check out <a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/u\/7\/113805451050351871502\/posts\">our Google+ page<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/u\/1\/102832084048340347143\/posts\">Kris Sayce&#8217;s<\/a> as well.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>From the Port Phillip Publishing Library<\/em><\/strong><strong> <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Special Report: <a href=\"http:\/\/pro1.portphillippublishing.com.au\/127343\/\" target=\"_blank\">Panic of 2013<\/a> <\/p>\n<p>    <em>Daily Reckoning:<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailyreckoning.com.au\/qe-is-dead-long-live-qe\/2013\/06\/20\/\" title=\"Permanent Link to QE is Dead, Long Live QE\">QE is  Dead, Long Live QE<\/a><strong> <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>    <em>Money Morning:<strong> <\/strong><\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20130621\/were-buying-this-crashing-stock-market.html\" title=\"Permanent Link to We&rsquo;re Buying This Crashing Stock Market\">We&rsquo;re Buying This Crashing Stock Market<\/a><strong><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>    <em>Pursuit of Happiness:<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pursuitofhappiness.com.au\/index.php\/market-news\/the-single-biggest-mistake-a-technology-investor-can-make\/5329\/\" title=\"The Single Biggest Mistake a Technology Investor Can Make\">The Single Biggest Mistake a Technology Investor Can  Make<\/a><strong> <\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"feedflare\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=ENd7TUE2zdQ:YXbmje4fdY4:yIl2AUoC8zA\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?d=yIl2AUoC8zA\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=ENd7TUE2zdQ:YXbmje4fdY4:V_sGLiPBpWU\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?i=ENd7TUE2zdQ:YXbmje4fdY4:V_sGLiPBpWU\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=ENd7TUE2zdQ:YXbmje4fdY4:gIN9vFwOqvQ\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?i=ENd7TUE2zdQ:YXbmje4fdY4:gIN9vFwOqvQ\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/MoneyMorningAustralia\/~4\/ENd7TUE2zdQ\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\" \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By MoneyMorning.com.au In today&rsquo;s Money Weekend we put aside the events of the week and in the markets for a chat with Vern Gowdie, the latest editor to join Port Phillip Publishing. 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