{"id":37946,"date":"2013-04-29T22:37:34","date_gmt":"2013-04-30T02:37:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/countingpips.com\/forex-news\/?p=37946"},"modified":"2013-04-29T22:37:34","modified_gmt":"2013-04-30T02:37:34","slug":"heres-the-real-reason-why-stock-market-prices-go-up","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/2013\/04\/29\/heres-the-real-reason-why-stock-market-prices-go-up\/","title":{"rendered":"Here\u2019s the Real Reason Why Stock Market Prices Go Up"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>By <a href=\"http:\/\/www.MoneyMorning.com.au\" target=\"_blank\"><u>MoneyMorning.com.au<\/u><\/a> <\/p>\n<p>Over the past  couple of weeks we&rsquo;d heard stories about the queues forming at bullion dealers.<\/p>\n<p>Our old pal, <em>Diggers &amp; Drillers<\/em> editor, Dr Alex  Cowie had heard first hand from bullion dealers in Melbourne and Sydney about  lines forming out the door and down corridors.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, being a  cynical soul, we thought we&rsquo;d check the scene out ourselves.<\/p>\n<p>Bearing in mind  that the last time we turned up at a bullion dealer four months ago, you could  swing three cats tied head to tail and still not hit anyone, we were surprised  at what we saw&hellip;<\/p>\n<p>When we got there  just before lunch there were four people ahead of us in the queue.<\/p>\n<p>But by the time  we left as the lunch crowd started filing in, there were 19 people waiting,  with two others standing at the counter.<\/p>\n<p>The queue was  longer at the bullion dealer than it was at the Commonwealth Bank branch on  Collins Street.<\/p>\n<p>We certainly now  believe the stories about queues the week before as <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20130424\/statistically-almost-impossible-the-mystery-of-golds-sudden-collapse.html\" title=\"Statistically, Almost Impossible: The Mystery of Gold\u2019s Sudden Collapse\">gold slumped<\/a> more than $200  in just a couple of days.<\/p>\n<p>But we&rsquo;re not  here to talk to you about buying gold or silver bullion. As we mentioned last  week, stop over-thinking it and just do it.<\/p>\n<p>However, we do  want to look at the impact higher volume has on markets, especially the <strong>stock  market<\/strong>&#8230;<\/p>\n<h2>Why Volume Isn&rsquo;t Important<\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p>Measuring <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/stock-market\" title=\"more on the stock market\">stock  market<\/a> volume is different to measuring volume at a bullion dealer. For a  start, you can&rsquo;t go somewhere to see people queuing up in a corridor to buy BHP Billion [ASX: BHP] shares or Commonwealth Bank of Australia [ASX: CBA] shares.<\/p>\n<p>But you can of  course see the trading volume in another way. That&rsquo;s by looking at stock  charts.<\/p>\n<p>However, the story  isn&rsquo;t straightforward.<\/p>\n<p>For the most  part, when you <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20110212\/how-to-buy-and-sell-shares.html\" title=\"how to buy and sell shares\">buy shares<\/a> you&rsquo;re buying them from someone who&rsquo;s selling  (obviously). They&rsquo;re selling because they think the price will fall&hellip;or at  least, won&rsquo;t rise much.<\/p>\n<p>In other words,  the volume of buys going through the market exactly matches the volume of  sells. That&rsquo;s why looking at volume on its own isn&rsquo;t always a useful indicator  (Murray explains more on this in today&rsquo;s <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneyweek.com\/blog\/emerging-markets-should-beware-japan-63623\" target=\"_blank\">Money  Morning Premium<\/a><\/em>).<\/p>\n<p>In fact, if you  crunch the numbers you&rsquo;ll see very little difference between the volume and  value traded two years ago to that traded over the past year.<\/p>\n<p>Take Commonwealth  Bank shares as an example. Over the past year, $63 billion-worth of CBA shares  has changed hands while the<strong> share price<\/strong> soared 37%. In the previous year $64.6  billion changed hands while the shares fell 3.1%.<\/p>\n<p>Or look at it  another way.<\/p>\n<p>Yesterday, $118.8  million-worth of Commonwealth Bank shares changed hands. Sounds like a lot  right? It is, but not compared to CBA&rsquo;s market capitalisation of $114 billion.<\/p>\n<p>It means  yesterday barely 0.1% of the company&rsquo;s shares changed hands. And yet that small  number of trades caused a 1% change in the share price.<\/p>\n<p>That tells you on  any given day, regardless of market conditions, or whether it&rsquo;s a rising market  or falling market, most investors prefer to do nothing. And it also tells you  that you <em>don&rsquo;t<\/em> need increased volume  for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/stock-market\/australian-share-market-stocks\" title=\"more on the share market\">share prices<\/a> to rise.<\/p>\n<p>So why do so many  people look at trading volumes? Probably because they think more buyers mean  higher prices.<\/p>\n<p>But it doesn&rsquo;t  always work that way. Remember, the volume of bought shares has to equal the  volume of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/stock-market\/share-trading\" title=\"share trading\">sold shares<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h2>Stocks to Rise on a Torrent of  Optimism?<\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p>This is exactly  why when we talk about a <a href=\"http:\/\/pro1.portphillippublishing.com.au\/118057\/\" target=\"_blank\">torrent of cash flooding into the market,<\/a> we also talk about the need for investors to believe <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/economy\/australia-economy\" title=\"more on the Australian Economy\">the economy <\/a>is improving.<\/p>\n<p>A torrent or  volume spike on its own won&rsquo;t be enough to push the market to the record level  we predict for 2015. Short-term volume spikes rarely last long. But a <a href=\"http:\/\/pro1.portphillippublishing.com.au\/118057\/\" target=\"_blank\">torrent of cash <em>and<\/em> improved investor optimism<\/a>&hellip;well,  that&rsquo;s a different story.<\/p>\n<p>In short, if  investors believe the economy will recover and markets deserve to go higher,  then investors will pay and demand higher prices, regardless of the volume  traded. That is the real key to the market rising further.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cheers,<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/about-kris-sayce\" title=\"About Kris Sayce\">Kris<\/a><\/strong><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/102832084048340347143\/posts\" title=\"Join Kris Sayce on Google Plus\"><strong><u>Join me on Google+<\/u><\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>PS. <\/strong>Most novice traders  look at two things on stock charts &mdash; price and volume. Unfortunately, only one  of those is worth looking at. In today&rsquo;s <em><a href=\"http:\/\/pro1.portphillippublishing.com.au\/118059\/\" target=\"_blank\">Money  Morning Premium<\/a><\/em> I asked technical trading guru Murray Dawes for his thoughts on trading volume.  He told me &lsquo;<em>I would never use it alone as  a reason to trade.<\/em>&rsquo; But there is one occasion when he would use it. <a href=\"http:\/\/pro1.portphillippublishing.com.au\/118059\/\" target=\"_blank\">Click  here to upgrade now<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>From the Port Phillip  Publishing Library<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Special Report: <a href=\"http:\/\/pro1.portphillippublishing.com.au\/118057\/\" target=\"_blank\">TORRENT SIGNAL 3<\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>Daily Reckoning:<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailyreckoning.com.au\/australian-deficit-where-did-the-money-go\/2013\/04\/29\/\" title=\"Permanent Link to Australian Deficit: Where Did the Money Go?\" target=\"_blank\">Australian  Deficit: Where Did the Money Go?<\/a><strong> <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Money  Morning<\/em><strong>: <\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20130429\/how-the-rich-make-money-from-the-stock-market.html\" title=\"Permanent Link to How the Rich make Money from the Stock Market\" target=\"_blank\">How the Rich  make Money from the Stock Market<\/a><strong> <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Pursuit of Happiness:<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pursuitofhappiness.com.au\/index.php\/retirement\/is-there-more-to-life-than-money-and-investing\/4552\/\" title=\"Is There More to Life Than Money and Investing?\" target=\"_blank\">Is There More to Life Than Money and  Investing?<\/a><strong> <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Australian Small-Cap Investigator<\/em>:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.australiansmall-capinvestigator.com.au\/what-are-small-cap-stocks-an-introduction-to-small-cap-investing\">How to Make Monehttp:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/?p=26083&#038;preview=truey From Small-Cap Stocks<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"feedflare\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=lCPSWu9aQZU:v23s_g00RsQ:yIl2AUoC8zA\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?d=yIl2AUoC8zA\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=lCPSWu9aQZU:v23s_g00RsQ:V_sGLiPBpWU\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?i=lCPSWu9aQZU:v23s_g00RsQ:V_sGLiPBpWU\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?a=lCPSWu9aQZU:v23s_g00RsQ:gIN9vFwOqvQ\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~ff\/MoneyMorningAustralia?i=lCPSWu9aQZU:v23s_g00RsQ:gIN9vFwOqvQ\" border=\"0\"><\/img><\/a>\n<\/div>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/MoneyMorningAustralia\/~4\/lCPSWu9aQZU\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\" \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By MoneyMorning.com.au Over the past couple of weeks we&rsquo;d heard stories about the queues forming at bullion dealers. Our old pal, Diggers &amp; Drillers editor, Dr Alex Cowie had heard first hand from bullion dealers in Melbourne and Sydney about lines forming out the door and down corridors. Anyway, being a cynical soul, we thought &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/2013\/04\/29\/heres-the-real-reason-why-stock-market-prices-go-up\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Here\u2019s the Real Reason Why Stock Market Prices Go Up&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-37946","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/37946","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=37946"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/37946\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=37946"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=37946"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=37946"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}