{"id":36979,"date":"2013-03-20T23:52:21","date_gmt":"2013-03-21T03:52:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/countingpips.com\/forex-news\/?p=36979"},"modified":"2013-03-20T23:52:21","modified_gmt":"2013-03-21T03:52:21","slug":"gold-update-direct-from-the-hong-kong-mines-money-conference","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/2013\/03\/20\/gold-update-direct-from-the-hong-kong-mines-money-conference\/","title":{"rendered":"Gold Update: Direct From the Hong Kong Mines &amp; Money Conference"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>By <a href=\"http:\/\/www.MoneyMorning.com.au\" target=\"_blank\"><u>MoneyMorning.com.au<\/u><\/a> <\/p>\n<p>Yesterday was the first day of the<strong> Hong Kong <em>Mines &#038; Money<\/em> conference.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>After the reports of fairly morose atmospheres at the other two big global <strong>mining conferences<\/strong> held round this time of year &#8211; the Prospectors and Developers Association of Canada Conference (PDAC) and the South African Indaba conference &#8211; I&#8217;m happy to say the mood has been bullish.<\/p>\n<p>The turnout has been strong, with about 4,000 here.<\/p>\n<p>The venue is pretty impressive, with sweeping views of the bay. Hong Kong is in full flow too. Rather than get a cab, I walked an hour to dinner with friends earlier to get a view of the bustle on the streets. My limited impression of Hong Kong is one of plenty of economic activity. Property prices have certainly been good round here. One guy I heard about had paid $2 million for a small apartment.<\/p>\n<h2>The View from the Gold Miners<\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p>Eric Sprott was the big draw card as the keynote speaker today, though the CEO of Newcrest, Greg Robinson, opened up proceedings. His views on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20130223\/the-gold-bull-market-nothing-goes-up-in-a-straight-line.html\" title=\"The Gold Bull Market: Nothing Goes Up in a Straight Line\">gold were bullish<\/a>, as they would be, and he hit some of the points I made in my speech the day before.<\/p>\n<p>He pulled out a few other cool facts. For instance, I didn&#8217;t know that half of the money spent in exploration globally last year was spent looking for<strong> gold<\/strong>. And with very little result. No one is finding big deposits any more, no matter what they spend. So future supply will be hamstrung. Much higher <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/gold-and-silver\/gold\/gold-price-gold-and-silver\" title=\"more on gold prices\">gold prices<\/a> will be needed to stimulate future supply.<\/p>\n<p>As for production costs, they have soared 256% in ten years:<\/p>\n<div align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/images\/mm20130321b.jpg\" alt=\"cash costs jumped by 256% over ten years\" border=\"0\"><\/div>\n<\/p>\n<p>According to Newcrest&#8217;s Greg Robinson, the industry is <em>&#8216;acutely aware of it&#8217;<\/em>. Hopefully they&#8217;ll pull their finger out and do something about it.<\/p>\n<p>On that topic, I weighed in on this after a later talk given by &#8216;mining associates&#8217; who reckoned the reason costs have soared <\/a>so much for gold is the drastically falling ore grades the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/gold-silver\" title=\"more on gold\">gold industry<\/a> is chasing in the name of bigger production volumes.<\/p>\n<p>Low grade is expensive to mine, to truck, and to treat. He reckoned that&#8217;s why the majors <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20130212\/gold-stocks-back-up-the-truck.html\" title=\"Gold Stocks: Back Up The Truck\">steer clear of gold<\/a> &#8211; it&#8217;s so hard to control costs.<\/p>\n<p>Eric Sprott drew a decent crowd for his talk, which focused on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/commodities\/precious-metals\" title=\"more on precious metals\">precious metals<\/a> of course. He covered a ton of stuff, starting with a look at debt at the sovereign level, and kicked off with a quote from Mark Carney, the Bank of Canada chief:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><em><br \/>\n           &#8216;The Global Minsky moment has arrived. Debt tolerance has decisively turned. The initially well-founded optimism that launched the decades-long credit boom has given way to a belated pessimism that seeks to reverse it.&#8217;<br \/>\n    <\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20130320\/why-the-cyprus-bailout-could-set-banking-back-300-years.html\" title=\"Why the Cyprus Bailout Could Set Banking Back 300 Years\">shenanigans in the Cypriot banking<\/a> system are the perfect backdrop to all this. Sprott reckoned the traders with a short position on gold will be in pain given gold has moved $30 against them in the last few weeks. <\/p>\n<p>With bank runs in Europe possible, he emphasised, <em>&#8216;having money in the banks &#8211; a highly leveraged counter-party &#8211; is a risk&#8217;<\/em>. The troika (EU, IMF, and ECB) would do all they could as, <em>&#8216;No one wants the first domino to fall,&#8217;<\/em> &#8211; but options are running out.<\/p>\n<p>By the way, the ECB has pumped $1.2 trillion into the European financial system in the last few weeks via bank swaps apparently. I must have missed the memo on that one. Clearly there is some trouble brewing.<\/p>\n<p>As for Germany repatriating its gold from the US: How can it take seven years to repatriate 350 tonnes, when China can import that much every six months? Just maybe it&#8217;s because the US doesn&#8217;t have <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20130130\/why-germany-wants-its-gold-back.html\" title=\"Why Germany Wants its Gold Back\">Germany&#8217;s gold<\/a>&#8230;<\/p>\n<h2>Some Other Investment Angles<\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p>As always, Sprott loves <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/gold-and-silver\/silver\" title=\"more on silver\">silver<\/a>. The supply of investible <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/gold-silver\" title=\"more on gold and silver\">silver is three times bigger than gold<\/a>, but investors are buying 50 times more than gold according to the US Mint website&#8230;so at some point this will have to translate into a supply crunch.<\/p>\n<p>In the 1980&#8242;s, Volker admitted that in reference to the gold run of the 70&#8242;s <em>&#8216;the biggest mistake we made was not controlling the gold price&#8217;<\/em>. Sprott expects that the gold price is being similarly managed today to create the illusion of recovery, when nothing could be further from the truth. During Barack Obama&#8217;s presidency, the number of food stamp users has jumped form 20 million to 47 million, or 15% of the US population.<\/p>\n<p>As for <strong>gold stocks<\/strong>, he doesn&#8217;t doubt they&#8217;re immensely cheap, but thinks we need to see a sustained move in gold for<a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/gold-and-silver\/gold\/gold-stocks\" title=\"more on gold stocks\"> gold stocks<\/a> to follow suit. Gold above USD$1,700 would be a good start.<\/p>\n<p>A big theme in the conference is the novel ways of financing the mining sector. With equity hard to come by, two new players are moving in: private equity, where private money buys a company lock stock and barrel, finances it, and turns it around; and the other is royalty streaming &#8211; where private money finances it in return of a cut of the product for a long period. There&#8217;s more talk about this tomorrow, so I&#8217;ll hold back on it until them.<\/p>\n<p>There was a great panel debate about <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/economy\/china-economy\" title=\"more on China's Economy\">China&#8217;s economy<\/a>, mostly held in Cantonese by Chinese bankers, so I listened via translator. It was pretty interesting seeing it from their eyes. This is something I&#8217;ll cover in the next issue of <em><a href=\"http:\/\/pro1.portphillippublishing.com.au\/3210\/\" target=\"_blank\">Diggers &#038; Drillers<\/a><\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve spoken to a dozen companies today, and need to run through all their details when I get back. There is plenty of new fodder to run the ruler over.<\/p>\n<p>One seminar that was pretty cool was on Myanmar, formerly Burma, which is taking off now it&#8217;s opening up. Apparently if you want to make a quick buck on property, you should go and check it out &#8211; its property market grew at 47% in 2012! Not bad for a year&#8217;s work!<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s it for me tonight. I&#8217;m stuffed. 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After the reports of fairly morose atmospheres at the other two big global mining conferences held round this time of year &#8211; the Prospectors and Developers Association of Canada Conference (PDAC) and the South African Indaba conference &#8211; I&#8217;m happy &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/2013\/03\/20\/gold-update-direct-from-the-hong-kong-mines-money-conference\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Gold Update: Direct From the Hong Kong Mines &amp; Money Conference&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-36979","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/36979","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=36979"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/36979\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=36979"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=36979"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=36979"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}