{"id":36322,"date":"2013-02-20T22:07:19","date_gmt":"2013-02-21T03:07:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/countingpips.com\/forex-news\/?p=36322"},"modified":"2013-02-20T22:07:19","modified_gmt":"2013-02-21T03:07:19","slug":"my-wife-and-warren-buffett","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/2013\/02\/20\/my-wife-and-warren-buffett\/","title":{"rendered":"My Wife and Warren Buffett"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>By <a href=\"http:\/\/www.MoneyMorning.com.au\" target=\"_blank\"><u>MoneyMorning.com.au<\/u><\/a> <\/p>\n<p>Don&#8217;t worry, we&#8217;re not about to reveal something salacious.<\/p>\n<p>But as you know, we&#8217;re always looking for signals to warn you that the <strong>stock market<\/strong> is about to change direction.<\/p>\n<p>Yesterday on our <a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/u\/0\/102832084048340347143\/posts\" target=\"_blank\">Google+<\/a> page we noted that Geoff Wilson from Wilson Asset Management has slapped a 6,000 point target on the S&#038;P\/ASX 200.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s 17.7% above yesterday&#8217;s closing price.<\/p>\n<p>Big calls like that always put us on edge.<\/p>\n<p>But that isn&#8217;t the only sign that has us questioning our bullish outlook. The first was something your editor&#8217;s wife said to us as she balanced the books for our weekly budget&#8230;<br \/><span id=\"more-22085\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p>For some months the share trading account of our self-managed super fund has appeared on the same login as our everyday bank account.<\/p>\n<p>It means we can see the account balance without having to log in to the trading account.<\/p>\n<p>But for most of that time the missus didn&#8217;t mention a thing&#8230;perhaps she hadn&#8217;t noticed. Then about three weeks ago she noticed&#8230;and every week since she&#8217;s noticed the value rising and gotten more excited.<\/p>\n<p>Now, you have to understand something, she doesn&#8217;t pay much attention to financial markets. She&#8217;s just really not that interested in it.<\/p>\n<p>And that&#8217;s fine by us. We like having some downtime at home where we don&#8217;t have to think about central bankers, PE ratios or dividend growth rates.<\/p>\n<p>So when the missus asks if we should <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20110212\/how-to-buy-and-sell-shares.html\" title=\"How to Buy and Sell Shares\">buy more shares<\/a>, well, we almost fell off our chair. But that was just the first warning sign. The second? That&#8217;s where <strong>Warren Buffett<\/strong> enters the frame&#8230;<\/p>\n<h2>Since When is Paying a Record High Price Value Investing?<\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p>You may have seen the recent news about multi-billionaire investor Warren Buffett. His <strong>Berkshire Hathaway [NYSE: BRK-A]<\/strong> investment company has teamed up with a private equity firm to pay USD$28 billion for the <strong>HJ Heinz Company [NYSE: HNZ]<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Warren Buffett is a &#8216;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailyreckoning.com.au\/the-art-of-value-investing-how-to-value-a-business-not-a-stock\/2012\/05\/10\/\" title=\"The Art of Value Investing: How to Value a Business, Not a Stock\">value investor<\/a>&#8216;. That simply means he believes the market has undervalued a company&#8217;s current and future earnings potential and seeks to buy the stock at what he sees as a discount to the real value. (Our colleague <a href=\"http:\/\/pro.portphillippublishing.com.au\/n12smsfuse\/WSMSP208\/\" target=\"_blank\">Greg Canavan<\/a> is also a value investor.)<\/p>\n<p>To be honest, we haven&#8217;t crunched the numbers on Heinz. But we raised our eyebrows when Buffett agreed to pay USD$72 per share for a company that had closed the previous day at USD$60.48.<\/p>\n<p>And which was already at an all-time high&#8230;higher than both the 1998 and 2008 peak:<\/p>\n<div align=\"center\"> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/images\/mm20130221a_lge.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/images\/mm20130221a_sml.jpg\" alt=\"Buffet Buys Heinz at Record Price\" border=\"0\"><\/a><br \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/images\/mm20130221a_lge.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">Click here<\/a> to enlarge<\/div>\n<p><em><\/p>\n<div align=\"center\">Source: Google Finance<\/div>\n<p><\/em><br \/>\nNow, buying above a record high price doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s a bad deal. But it does mean that Mr Buffett thinks he can see some value in the stock that millions of other investors have missed.<\/p>\n<p>Or it means that Mr Buffett has overpaid for the stock. And he wouldn&#8217;t be alone. The fact is you tend to see an increase in takeovers when the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/stock-market\" title=\"more on the stock market\">stock market<\/a> is high. Why?<\/p>\n<p>Because high market prices tend to coincide with the end of economic growth. So, when companies see growth slowing organically (i.e. they can&#8217;t increase sales to existing customers) they have to &#8216;buy&#8217; sales from other companies.<\/p>\n<p>But when a business buys another business at the top of a market cycle, it runs a big risk of overpaying. That&#8217;s the fate that could face Berkshire Hathaway and Warren Buffett. Buffett is paying double the price that Heinz traded at during the slump in 2009.<\/p>\n<p>So isn&#8217;t it reasonable to say that the market has already priced in a fair amount of future growth? And isn&#8217;t it reasonable to say that after the entire US market has doubled since 2009 that Buffett feels pressure to get some of Berkshire Hathaway&#8217;s USD$47 billion cash stash working?<\/p>\n<p>As we say, we don&#8217;t know for certain. But it&#8217;s a big reason to put you on high alert. And if those two signals weren&#8217;t enough, another one appeared on cue last night&#8230;<\/p>\n<h2>Gearing Up Before a Crash?<\/h2>\n<p>\nWe saw the following note in the <em>Eureka Report<\/em>&#8216;s free eletter:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><em><br \/>\n            &#8216;Gearing up: It&#8217;s all in the timing &#8211; The stronger stockmarket raises the question of whether investors should reconsider gearing&#8230;here&#8217;s what you need to know.&#8217;<br \/>\n    <\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Margin lending now? Hmmm.<\/p>\n<p>All this isn&#8217;t to say the market can&#8217;t go higher. As we&#8217;ve noted over the past few months, we still see a lot of value in the market&#8230;especially among beaten-down <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/stock-market\/small-cap-stocks\" title=\"more on small cap stocks\">small-cap stocks<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>But even so, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/category\/stock-market\/australian-share-market-stocks\" title=\"more on the Australian stock market\">Australian stock market<\/a> has torn through 5,000 points and now many folks (including your editor) are banking on prices going even higher.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s at times like this when you should pay attention to the warning signs and make the appropriate adjustments to your <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/investments\" title=\"more on investments\">investments<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>That doesn&#8217;t mean selling everything, it simply means arranging your portfolio to protect you from big falls while still allowing you to benefit if the market keeps going up.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cheers,<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/about-kris-sayce\" title=\"About Kris Sayce\">Kris<\/a><\/strong><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/plus.google.com\/102832084048340347143\/posts\" title=\"Join Kris Sayce on Google Plus\"><strong><u>Join me on Google Plus<\/u><\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>From the Port Phillip Publishing Library<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Special Report: <a href=\"http:\/\/pro.portphillippublishing.com.au\/p01goldnewof\/WOSIP218\/\" target=\"_blank\">The Gold Mirror of Kaieteur Falls<\/a> <\/p>\n<p><em>Daily Reckoning<\/em>: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailyreckoning.com.au\/shock-monetary-therapy-should-you-cut-back-your-exposure-to-gold\/2013\/02\/19\/\" target=\"_blank\">Shock Monetary Therapy: Should You Cut Back Your Exposure to Gold?<\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>Money Morning<\/em>: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moneymorning.com.au\/20130219\/the-poster-child-for-the-us-shale-gas-revolution.html\" target=\"_blank\">The Poster-Child for the US Shale Gas Revolution<\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>Pursuit of Happiness<\/em>: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pursuitofhappiness.com.au\/index.php\/retirement\/my-goals-now-im-64\/3961\/\" target=\"_blank\">My Goals Now I&#8217;m 64<\/a><\/p>\n<p><em>Australian Small-Cap Investigator<\/em>: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.australiansmall-capinvestigator.com.au\/why-invest-in-small-cap-stocks-and-why-now\">Why Invest in Small-Cap Stocks? 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But as you know, we&#8217;re always looking for signals to warn you that the stock market is about to change direction. Yesterday on our Google+ page we noted that Geoff Wilson from Wilson Asset Management has slapped a 6,000 point target on the S&#038;P\/ASX &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/2013\/02\/20\/my-wife-and-warren-buffett\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;My Wife and Warren Buffett&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-36322","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/36322","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=36322"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/36322\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=36322"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=36322"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.investmacro.com\/forex-news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=36322"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}